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  1. #1
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    SolarMisae's Avatar
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    Miah'li Nelhah
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    Midgardsormr
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    Astrologian Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by coolguy48457 View Post
    yes I am, especially when its creating an imbalance in skill required across melee dps as a whole. its a valid complaint and if you don't think so take your no feedback trolling somewhere else? When every melee dps option is CONSIDERABLY more difficult than the range counterparts you have an issue, especially when said issue causes half the server to think of melee dps players as a joke and not worthy of taking along for content outside of a necessary limit break
    That is completely untrue though. Daily I have seen pfs looking for MNK/DRG specifically for their raid groups for 2.4. Monk is the highest single target dps in the game and will kill every other class in numbers in T8. If what you say is true, and they ARE much harder to play (I agree with, but I don't think the gap is as big as you suggest) then I think it's fair since they do such high numbers.

    And I also don't get what is wrong with some classes taking more skill to play than other classes? And saying they are "considerably" more difficult to play is a personal opinion anyway. Everyone has a different opinion of what they perceive as difficult. For example, I play and main dragoon, by your logic I play a class that should be harder than every ranged counterpart, right? I also have black mage leveled to 50. I find black mage to be harder because while the rotation is simple just keeping that rotation going confuses me, the cast times are so long and with so many fights that make you move around or I can't quite understand the concept of keeping up the casts going while also dealing with mechanics. I find myself thinking "when the fuck do I get to cast?" That to me is more difficult then smashing the keys of the rotations I have memorized over and over again and just making sure I stand in the right place for certain moves.
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    SolarMisae's Avatar
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    Miah'li Nelhah
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    Lol...yeah alright. Monks, the highest st dps in the game, are only used for the lb.
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    Rayne Cloudborn
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    Arcanist Lv 50
    so delusional blm much
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    Alayna Lazriel
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    Gilgamesh
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    Red Mage Lv 70
    Well ranged dps have to worry about getting his by aoes and hostile fire all the same. Really only the cleave puts melee at risk. Also something to take into consideration, ranged dps mostly take care of all the mechanics so melee can continue to dps. I.E. activating switches, tethers, landmines, kiting, towers, etc. This isn't exclusive, but 90% of the time, this is the case. On top of all that, dps melee has the highest dps in the game, so there is balance. You can complain about keeping up your rotations while keeping positions, but ranged have to keep up with rotations while moving all over the arena taking care of things so you can keep your GL stacks.
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    Damaru Damasu
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    Balmung
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    Lancer Lv 60
    bad thread is bad
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    Jakz Kumaze
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    Louisoix
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    Pugilist Lv 64
    Well considering if you just stand on the flank ninjas movement becomes once every minute for TA. Not too strenouis I would think.
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    Ikohyu Kaito
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    Balmung
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    Marauder Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by JakzChurchill View Post
    Well considering if you just stand on the flank ninjas movement becomes once every minute for TA. Not too strenouis I would think.
    You can even scratch TA from your rotation because it can only be used as opener while you're in "Hide", so once per fight.
    So basicly Ninja will only have a flank requirement for his rotation.
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    Pluvia Zephyr
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    Ragnarok
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    White Mage Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Atreides View Post
    You can even scratch TA from your rotation because it can only be used as opener while you're in "Hide", so once per fight.
    So basicly Ninja will only have a flank requirement for his rotation.
    No TA will still be every min Suiton gives you the ability to use TA/SA out of hide.
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    Ikohyu Kaito
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pluvia View Post
    No TA will still be every min Suiton gives you the ability to use TA/SA out of hide.
    Ah my bad then, well it's still easy enough to get an extra positional on every other minute.
    But yeah if you have a warrior with you that would make it one positional.
    So i don't see whats the deal with people complaining about positionals.
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    Last edited by Atreides; 10-27-2014 at 07:31 PM.

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    Baal Mirtaq
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    Shiva
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    Dragoon Lv 100
    Ninja has less positional requirements than both MNK and DRG so to me it looks like they actually ease up on postionals for melees. Ninja's main rotation only involves 1 GCD skill with a positional check and even that one can be avoided if you let a warrior do it for you. Sure you can count SATA too but even then its only once every minute.

    Ninja sounds like a good option for people that would like to play melee but hate positional checks imo.
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