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    Duelle's Avatar
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    Duelle Urelle
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    Red Mage Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by ZzPixie View Post
    wow are you seriously complaining about positional requirements?
    Well, there was a distinction in MMOs that classes with positional requirements required more skill to play. You'd have people that liked that sort of thing play those classes while people who didn't like positional requirements had the option to play melee DPS that didn't have positional requirements, offering a little bit more utility in exchange for not having that edge in DPS.

    In FFXIV no such thing exists because all melee DPS classes have positional requirements. I'm not too keen on them half because none of the weapons insterest me (fists, spears and daggers don't do anything for me) and half because I know I would have trouble in serious content between keeping a rotation going AND watching out for stuff. I didn't realize how easy DPS can tunnel vision in this game to the point they miss mechanics until I leveled MNK and DRG to 50.
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    * The sad thing is that FFXIV turned RDM into a turret, and people think that's what it's supposed to be. It's supposed to combine sword and magic into something more, not spend the bulk of gameplay spamming spells and jump into melee for only 3 GCDs before scurrying back to the back line like good little casters.
    * Design ideas:
    Red Mage - COMPLETE (https://tinyurl.com/y6tsbnjh), Chemist - Second Pass (https://tinyurl.com/ssuog88), Thief - First Pass (https://tinyurl.com/vdjpkoa), Rune Fencer - First Pass (https://tinyurl.com/y3fomdp2)

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    Adol Giantbane
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    Dark Knight Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Duelle View Post
    Well, there was a distinction in MMOs that classes with positional requirements required more skill to play. You'd have people that liked that sort of thing play those classes while people who didn't like positional requirements had the option to play melee DPS that didn't have positional requirements, offering a little bit more utility in exchange for not having that edge in DPS.

    In FFXIV no such thing exists because all melee DPS classes have positional requirements. I'm not too keen on them half because none of the weapons insterest me (fists, spears and daggers don't do anything for me) and half because I know I would have trouble in serious content between keeping a rotation going AND watching out for stuff. I didn't realize how easy DPS can tunnel vision in this game to the point they miss mechanics until I leveled MNK and DRG to 50.
    Ideally there would be a melee DPS without positional requirements that trades DPS for utility and ease of use like a melee version of the BRD.

    *cough* RDM *cough*


    On topic, I feel the positional requirements are a little too strict and wish the game gave you a little more leeway when determining a side/back hit, especially on targets in motion.
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    Chione Winterfury
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    Monk Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Giantbane View Post
    Ideally there would be a melee DPS without positional requirements that trades DPS for utility and ease of use like a melee version of the BRD.

    *cough* RDM *cough*


    On topic, I feel the positional requirements are a little too strict and wish the game gave you a little more leeway when determining a side/back hit, especially on targets in motion.
    Part of a good tank is how to hold aggro without moving around too much or "flinching" aka moving left and right just for that additional (and illusional) 1 second more delay on boss autoattacks just for the ZOMG heals to come in.

    Only exception is the spinning tank tactic in Hydra ages ago... God that's a nightmare for melee
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    Miah'li Nelhah
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    Astrologian Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Spartan117 View Post
    Only exception is the spinning tank tactic in Hydra ages ago... God that's a nightmare for melee
    What...what was this "spinning tank" tactic in hydra? It sounds pretty funny lol.
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