Lost 1 day of play.

[KrissKringle]

I admit I may have said a few things out of line, but some of your posts don't even contain anything other than the insult.


It's just going back and forth, you're arguing "it's the principle of losing 25 hours of potential game time" which is fair enough, most people see it as "I want my 50c back!", I'm not arguing against you when I say go find a law that demands companies to compensate consumers for lost time under any and all circumstances, just a suggestion of what should be done if you honestly feel you're entitled to that lost time.

I have no problem having a logical conversation about this, but if you are going to sling insults I have no problems slinging them back. I am in no way concerned about my money because it is so little. I am also aware what ToS states. What I am literally arguing is that it is unreasonable to tell someone they shouldn't be compensated for it because all logic suggests that you should because in reality nobody is actually paying to not play a game. I get what you and everyone else is saying and all I am doing is providing a rational response in return as to why I disagree. But I have yet to have been met with what I believe to be a decent argument against something that I just find to be so fundamentally easy to understand.

[Cadwgan]

I have no problem having a logical conversation about this, but if you are going to sling insults I have no problems slinging them back. I am in no way concerned about my money because it is so little. I am also aware what ToS states. What I am literally arguing is that it is unreasonable to tell someone they shouldn't be compensated for it because all logic suggests that you should because in reality nobody is actually paying to not play a game. I get what you and everyone else is saying and all I am doing is providing a rational response in return as to why I disagree. But I have yet to have been met with what I believe to be a decent argument against something that I just find to be so fundamentally easy to understand.

'Eh, I guess most people just accept the ToS and find something else to do for the day, we're gamers, as long as we have something to entertain us. I understand people feel entitled to what they have paid for, in your situation I'd honestly vote with my wallet by unsubscribing and find a lawyer to start digging around, the language SE understands best (other than Japanese) is money. I find it unreasonable to demand compensation, I'd request it as a gesture but I'm not going to kick up a fuss over it.

[KrissKringle]

'Eh, I guess most people just accept the ToS and find something else to do for the day, we're gamers, as long as we have something to entertain us. I understand people feel entitled to what they have paid for, in your situation I'd honestly vote with my wallet by unsubscribing and find a lawyer to start digging around, the language SE understands best (other than Japanese) is money. I find it unreasonable to demand compensation, I'd request it as a gesture but I'm not going to kick up a fuss over it.

Actually taking to the forums with it is quite effective. Player petitions have worked in the past with this game and other games. In fact it usually takes a player petition in the forums to get a refund like this, but it does work if everyone feels entitled to it and speaks up.

[Cadwgan]

Actually taking to the forums with it is quite effective. Player petitions have worked in the past with this game and other games. In fact it usually takes a player petition in the forums to get a refund like this, but it does work if everyone feels entitled to it and speaks up.

Possibly, but it in this situation the upper bosses will probably just point at the ToS and shut the door. Saying that they might note that players are unhappy with the extended maintenance times and give us free days as a good will gesture in the future.

The problem is how it's argued most of the time, "I demand free time because I can't log in and play what I want to play!" sounds a lot more unreasonable compared to "I wish to play your game but the lack of compensation with long maintenance times is making me think of looking elsewhere.", the first argument sounds like an entitled brat, however the second argument sounds like a customer that doesn't really want to leave, I know which customer I'd want to keep.