Lost 1 day of play.

[KrissKringle]

'Eh, I guess most people just accept the ToS and find something else to do for the day, we're gamers, as long as we have something to entertain us. I understand people feel entitled to what they have paid for, in your situation I'd honestly vote with my wallet by unsubscribing and find a lawyer to start digging around, the language SE understands best (other than Japanese) is money. I find it unreasonable to demand compensation, I'd request it as a gesture but I'm not going to kick up a fuss over it.

Actually taking to the forums with it is quite effective. Player petitions have worked in the past with this game and other games. In fact it usually takes a player petition in the forums to get a refund like this, but it does work if everyone feels entitled to it and speaks up.

[KrissKringle]

No, I'm not. You are asking for more than what you agreed to pay for. That is a form of being entitled just because you pay for something. Why is it so bad that rules have to be in place for something?

It is your opinion that I am asking for more than what I agreed, not a fact. You make it seem like people who think like this are crazy when in fact it's a quite a lot of people.

[Trixxy]

Only bothered reading through the first two pages of sarcastic remarks but I'd also be interested in knowing whether that maintenance day does count as a sub day or not, while it doesn't really matter all that much to me it'd still be a cool move from SE if they did that to shut up everyone who's whining over the 25 hour maint.

[KrissKringle]

Only bothered reading through the first two pages of sarcastic remarks but I'd also be interested in knowing whether that maintenance day does count as a sub day or not, while it doesn't really matter all that much to me it'd still be a cool move from SE if they did that to shut up everyone who's whining over the 25 hour maint.

You're assumption that people are just "whining" is unfortunate. Maybe if you weren't "whining" about what you perceived as people whining there could be some further discussion on this matter. But as long as people who wish to put down all logical argument with insults exist there will be no progress.

[Cadwgan]

Actually taking to the forums with it is quite effective. Player petitions have worked in the past with this game and other games. In fact it usually takes a player petition in the forums to get a refund like this, but it does work if everyone feels entitled to it and speaks up.

Possibly, but it in this situation the upper bosses will probably just point at the ToS and shut the door. Saying that they might note that players are unhappy with the extended maintenance times and give us free days as a good will gesture in the future.

The problem is how it's argued most of the time, "I demand free time because I can't log in and play what I want to play!" sounds a lot more unreasonable compared to "I wish to play your game but the lack of compensation with long maintenance times is making me think of looking elsewhere.", the first argument sounds like an entitled brat, however the second argument sounds like a customer that doesn't really want to leave, I know which customer I'd want to keep.

[LilithMakyomo]

It is your opinion that I am asking for more than what I agreed, not a fact. You make it seem like people who think like this are crazy when in fact it's a quite a lot of people.

In order to play, you have to agree to the fact that they can take servers down at any point. These maintenance are included in the thirty day time. If you ask for another day that brings that total to 31, then that is more than what you paid for.

You're not crazy, and neither is anyone else that thinks that way, but ou shouldn't play if you don't agree with the rules.

[KrissKringle]

Oh please its just a day... During the entire sub everyone at least takes a day out or more. Go play outside... Get a Sword, go to the mall, kill everyone and say out loud you are leveling your ninja! Jesus

See here is an example, just another insult. Nobody has a real argument against this. It's like they all know they agree but the rules aren't letting them.

[KrissKringle]

In order to play, you have to agree to the fact that they can take servers down at any point. These maintenance are included in the thirty day time. If you ask for another day that brings that total to 31, then that is more than what you paid for.

You're not crazy, and neither is anyone else that thinks that way, but ou shouldn't play if you don't agree with the rules.

Well you cave have your opinion but I respectfully disagree. The standard of service in this industry is dropping at an astounding rate and what you suggest I do is to just accept it. I'm sorry but I'm not so ignorant to believe that I should never think for myself. I find your complacency on the matter distasteful at the least.

[LilithMakyomo]

Well you cave have your opinion but I respectfully disagree. The standard of service in this industry is dropping at an astounding rate and what you suggest I do is to just accept it. I'm sorry but I'm not so ignorant to believe that I should never think for myself. I find your complacency on the matter distasteful at the least.

It doesn't matter to me because 4 months of this game keeps my attention more than any of the new $60 games coming out. I lose a day and get a bunch of extra content that the designers technically don't have to make.

If they started charging for maintenance, then I would drop it. Otherwise, one day just leaves me more time to hang out with friends and people outside the game.

[KrissKringle]

It doesn't matter to me because 4 months of this game keeps my attention more than any of the new $60 games coming out. I lose a day and get a bunch of extra content that the designers technically don't have to make.

If they started charging for maintenance, then I would drop it. Otherwise, one day just leaves me more time to hang out with friends and people outside the game.

Well I'm sorry, not all of us want to give up our reasoning abilities. Good for you that you like the game.