Spellcasting in PvP

[Red_Wolf]

Having spells interrupted by auto-attacks is just plain ridiculous. You can't defend this. No caster in their right mind would agree this is how PvP should be played. Surecast and equanimity should not be affected by CC's either, but the real problem is melee players being able to interrupt casters with zero effort. Name one thing a caster can do to a melee player with zero effort.

Obviously spells will have to be re-balanced in PvP after this change, but it is for the better.

[Santherelle]

It is pretty brutal getting interrupted, slowed, heavied, unable to move while my hit point bar falls in leaps and bounds.

If I get off a few cure 2s and a medica 2 in a single battle before getting completely destroyed I count it a good fight.

Although I will admit I am pretty new at Frontlines and have a lot to learn.

[yuixjfa]

This thread makes me want to torment you BLM even more.

If you can't handle the heat, stay out of the kitchen.

PS. To you "seasoned veteran" PvPers, search up this thing called "peeling". It's a pretty nifty tactic that your (hopefully capable) teammates can do to support you.

[Sunako]

If I play scholar, i usually spam adlo on spellcasters(in case i have time 2 do that) so they do not get interrupted or with whm i spam stoneskin on them. Problem with that wow interrupt system is that ppl can cheat and use third party programs. I think that current system works very well. If casters need some kind of buff, buff surecast and let us have 10 sec time even if we get interrupted.

[Red_Wolf]

This thread makes me want to torment you BLM even more.

If you can't handle the heat, stay out of the kitchen.

PS. To you "seasoned veteran" PvPers, search up this thing called "peeling". It's a pretty nifty tactic that your (hopefully capable) teammates can do to support you.

Peeling and CC in general works in about 10-25% of the PvP matches I've been in. Melee like you just spam AoE's and attack lifeless enemies like it's your job. Not to mention anything from a nuke to a baby auto attack from a wayward summoner's pet will break CC.

The sad part is sometimes the only one you can successfully CC is the other team's healer. No one ever attacks them!

It takes one bard with auto-attack to completely shut down 70-80% of a caster's abilities. What sacrifice does melee take in comparison?

[Skeith-Adeline]

This thread makes me want to torment you BLM even more.

If you can't handle the heat, stay out of the kitchen.

PS. To you "seasoned veteran" PvPers, search up this thing called "peeling". It's a pretty nifty tactic that your (hopefully capable) teammates can do to support you.

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It's not very effective...

[Iagainsti]

Yui used Insult!
It's not very effective...

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[Alberel]

This thread makes me want to torment you BLM even more.

If you can't handle the heat, stay out of the kitchen.

PS. To you "seasoned veteran" PvPers, search up this thing called "peeling". It's a pretty nifty tactic that your (hopefully capable) teammates can do to support you.

So you can auto-interrupt spellcasting without pressing a single skill... just start auto-attacking and follow your target. Your proposed counter for this is to have my team actually coordinate a strategy just to peel you off?

You realise you just proved how inherently unbalanced this is right? You, a lone player, can do enough to shut down an enemy caster without even using any skills, that it requires that enemy' team to coordinate just to counter you... That's plain broken. End of story.

Physical DPS simply should not be able to shut down casters the way they currently can. It's far too easy for them to do so and it's entirely skilless gameplay! If you want to interrupt our casts you should be doing it with well-timed stuns and silences on the casts that matter. You should not be able to interrupt everything simply by targeting us!

[Domira]

Physical DPS simply should not be able to shut down casters the way they currently can. It's far too easy for them to do so and it's entirely skilless gameplay! If you want to interrupt our casts you should be doing it with well-timed stuns and silences on the casts that matter. You should not be able to interrupt everything simply by targeting us!

I agree to a extent, however if they simply remove spell interruption with how BLM plays atm and with the diminishing return system. Then it would be a disaster. Here is how it would look:

* BLM would be able to face cast, so now they can melee and range effectively. While melee is completely ineffective at range.
* BLM would be able to aoe cc without worrying about swift cast
* After diminishing returns kicks in BLM would be able to cast freely without fear of interruption
* Enemy players only have three times to interrupt a BLM before DR kicks in. Realistically what this means is BLM may not ever be interrupted when on their big casts. There would be randoms who just mash their stun skill making DR kick in.

Also, a BLM would have no real weakness compare to melee. Once you have melee CCed with heavy and especially bind, it makes it nearly impossible for them to perform their jobs. In comparison, bind and heavy won't affect BLM for doing theirs. Likewise, the equivalent anti caster CC and stun last much shorter than bind and heavy.

In short it would be a nightmare, I guarantee you when people catch on FL would ultimately be a team of BLM (maybe SMN) with healers. There would have to be some serious changes across the board to remove spell interruption. Like I said I agree with you that spell interruption is a bad mechanic, however the game would be so imbalanced without it that many will wish it still had it.

FFXIV is a pve game that allows us to pvp. The foundation of the game is designed around pve, not the other way around unfortunately.

[Red_Wolf]

I agree that you have to re-balance caster spells when removing this terrible interrupt mechanic. But it would still be for the better.

Most of these points are invalid though. BLM's would still be interrupted by actual interrupts, knockbacks, stuns, other CC. Not to mention they can't just stand there and get beat on and expect to live. While evading and LOSing they can't cast either. They might get one or 2 casts off while "tanking" as a BLM, but they're going to die quickly just being a target.

"There would be randoms who just mash their stun skill making DR kick in." - this though... How do you think BLM's feel when randoms just mash buttons breaking their CC?