Spellcasting in PvP

[StouterTaru]

How often are you getting hit with freeze or blizzard II in PvP? Freeze is just a monkey wrech spell, biggest use is to set up a LB, not an actual survival spell. Blizzard II is 80% of a GCD, good luck getting that off while being hit, and goodbye to AF if you do. Sleep isn't going off without swift cast, and resistance builds real fast. And Manaward, to protect you from all the magic damage being dealt out by... Aetherial Manipulation, really? Surecast is about as useful as Truth of Forests in PvP.

Could you please take a moment to list all the cc abilities BLM has access to for PvP? Raging Strikes, Virus, Physick, those are pretty much everything but stun or knockback? Eye for an Eye is the only honorable mention, the rest are quelling strikes, hawk's eye, ruin, and DoL abilities.

[Houston009]

L2/facetarget

[Dimitrii]

How often are you getting hit with freeze or blizzard II in PvP?

Is this a serious question? I guess only primal data center casters and healers use this spell. And guess what? If I do get hit with this spell 90% of the time that caster/healer has me bound for full duration cause I'm not wasting my purify to remove this should elusive jump be unavailable.

Sleep isn't going off without swift cast and resistance builds real fast

And you are saving your swiftcast for what exactly? flare? I'm sorry you cannot keep people perpetually slept from 3 minutes at a time. And the resistance wears just as fast as it builds.

And Manaward, to protect you from all the magic damage being dealt out by

Other blms and smn? I guess casters never attack other casters. Must be some code amongst casters.

Aetherial Manipulation, really?

An ability that can create a gap between you and your enemy and even be used to get back to your healers side. Granted its situationally useful but on a job that everybody knows needs to stick with their team mates and especially their healer like glue you honestly have never used it? Maybe you should.

Surecast is about as useful as Truth of Forests in PvP.

Lol. Clearly I get those blizzard II's off on my whm through sheer force of will alone

Could you please take a moment to list all the cc abilities BLM has access to for PvP? Raging Strikes, Virus, Physick, those are pretty much everything but stun or knockback? Eye for an Eye is the only honorable mention, the rest are quelling strikes, hawk's eye, ruin, and DoL abilities.

I dont even know where you are going with this. You are listing a bunch of abilities that aren't classified as cc abilities and omitting the fact that you can bind, sleep and heavy ppl. Sleep, Bind, Heavy, Knockback, Stun, and Pacification are the six most prominent forms of cc available to players and blm has access to half of these. I'm not even counting the skill speed reduction from aetheric burst.

[kisada]

wow! based on what i just read it is no small wonder that this entire thread exists with an entire group of people who truly, but incorrectly, believe blm is actually the weakling you guys perceive it to be.

Maybe someone should write a blm pvp guide or something, as it is clear a lot of people could use help with the fundamentals and playstyle of it all.

[Atreus]

Knives I'd just let it go. This whole thread pretty much translates to "I want the ability to run off and 1v1 things".

[Arkenne]

Maybe someone should write a blm pvp guide or something, as it is clear a lot of people could use help with the fundamentals and playstyle of it all.

Yep, that would be a nice read.

[Dimitrii]

Knives I'd just let it go. This whole thread pretty much translates to "I want the ability to run off and 1v1 things".

Yeah you're exactly right. As of this post I'm done replying. Its a fruitless discussion at this point.

[Layth]

You can't convince people that don't want to learn. The good PvPers will always focus on learning how to make their class work rather than complain on the forums.

[Eikko_Fenrir]

Blm nerfs have been a bit over-the-top, to the point that they need an sch or whm to auto follow and spam stoneskin or sch's cure II (forgot the name of the skill that gives them a shield effect). Most Blm's can simply just run around and sleep spam scath. There single target damage is great but they need to hold still a good 5sec to get it going, and most ppl that hold still that long are dead.

[SethLex]

Ok, I'm a bit late to the party, but I do want to chime in. My go to classes in PVP are BLM and SCH.

The original post was about spell-casting in PVP. Not BLMs, or BLMsvsSMNs or how much of a glass cannon (fun term, will come back to it) the BLM is. But about spellcasting in general and what I can say about that is reduced to: Fffffffrustrating!!!!111one1eleven

Keep in mind I'm not saying it's not balanced and I'm not saying you can't work around the mechanic. All I'm saying is: casting is not fun and it should be! Now, there are numerous possible solutions out there, solutions which could be debated endlessly till the severs go down, but almost all of them would fix the casting-is-no-fun issue and therefore I believe implementing one of these solutions and then making the necessary adjustments to maintain balance would be the way to go. But that's just me...

Now, about the BLM debate: whoever says that BLM in their current state are weak, they have no idea what they are talking about.

In the opening lines I used the term "glass cannon" and I'm now coming back to it because it actually does the BLM justice: left alone, I can build up to so much burst damage I can make your tank/dps/healer evaporate so fast that you blow that benediction CD and it still doesn't land ; however, throw a rock in my general direction and I run screaming like a little girl (or I bind, sleep, cast some fire, scathe kite, bind, heal myself, sleep, booooring, kite, kite..... I generally die). And that's the way it should be.

No, I don't expect to win in 1v1, but I do every once in a while. However, when I do, it takes pretty much all I have to offer in terms of CCs and skill rotations. And I'm ok with that. Because my role is not to blow things up by myself. My role is to stay with a team, even a small one, sleep, bind, and whenever I get a moment to myself, melt the face of the enemy healer or of the DPS that's pestering my healer. The BLM is fine just the way it is.

TL;DR
Fix the annoying interrupts and rebalance the game afterwards.
In the current system the BLM is fine just the way it is.