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    Takeshi Eiketsu
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    Red Mage - A DoM Tank Job?

    While it looks like we will be put on a further hold for the Red Mage class...I have been hoping that SE would do something new with Red Mage like making it a Disciple of Magic Tank class! Would put red mage up in the front lines and give a use to abilities like Enfire/Enice/etc and Blaze Spikes/Shock Spikes/etc. They already use a fencing/rapier sword and a shield. Just because they are a Mage, shouldnt mean they cant tank. So I am all for a Red Mage Tank! Any thoughts? Opinions?

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    Heavensward: Let us Tank Together™

    Please Look Forward to It™
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    Satheena Mistalle
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    I don't think the current DoW/DoM split works for red mage at all since its technically SUPPOSED to be both according to past FFs. Its supposed to be a melee AND a mage. A mage with a sword and melee ability. Not just a magic user. I am against enspells and shock spells as they stand

    I wouldn't mind having the skills Lightning uses in FF13 on her ravager in their place though Elemental blade attacks maybe with debuffs on each one and buffs similar to bards. I would also rather it be more comparable to bard, just a front line version of it. Even though I was fully able to tank on RDM in FFXI. I realize this is a different game and spells like haste and refresh likely wont exist like they did in FFXI. (and putting haste in could hurt possibilities of Time Mage being implimented)

    I will however fully support if its a tank since red mage COULD use a wide verity of gear from cloth(WHM/BLM) to light(leather) to medium(Mail) and maybe have some ability to make its damage taken similar to that of a PLD(because lets face it rdm could use shields too and we only have one class that uses shields all the time)

    Also another thought before anyone says MND INT for magic stuff... they could do like they did for dps paladins in wow and give a melee trait(STR) a specific % conversion to MND and INT via class traits to help its mage-like skills be more potent while not harming its front line ability.
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    Last edited by Xikeroth; 10-27-2014 at 07:57 AM.

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    Kiranoa Eclipse
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    Ashelia Dalmasca was considered a red mage under the "correct" build in ff12 according to their own ff wiki sources, she later changed in the ds version for revenant wings or whatever it was labeled as for the "sequel"

    It is how I indeed played her for the fact I hated vaan...

    my line up was ashe as tank/mage and had penelo and balthier for my 2 others....

    but yes red mage as far as I understand can tank just fine with certain skill allowances...


    dunno if they will allow it here...been waiting for musketeer for almost 4 years...
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    I'll simply say tanking is iconoclastic to the job.
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    * The sad thing is that FFXIV turned RDM into a turret, and people think that's what it's supposed to be. It's supposed to combine sword and magic into something more, not spend the bulk of gameplay spamming spells and jump into melee for only 3 GCDs before scurrying back to the back line like good little casters.
    * Design ideas:
    Red Mage - COMPLETE (https://tinyurl.com/y6tsbnjh), Chemist - Second Pass (https://tinyurl.com/ssuog88), Thief - First Pass (https://tinyurl.com/vdjpkoa), Rune Fencer - First Pass (https://tinyurl.com/y3fomdp2)

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    Arete Sophoi
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    I for one think Rdm as a tank would be an interesting option vs.. you know yet another heavy armor users.
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    Prefer RDM Tank to DRK Tank...
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    When I last played FFXI, since the population dropped and I could not find parties (I'd stay online for about 4 hours with my LFP flag up) as RDM/WHM, I then switched to RDM/WAR and went out and soloed for a bit. I had fun, and I did a lot of fights well. I was like a pseudo-PLD of sorts, but I had RDM at Lv39 at the time... Meh, my character is put to rest on there since the Diabolos server merged with Siren, and my character had to be renamed as it was already used on the Siren server
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    They can always just make rdm like a Magic Melee dps that uses offensive dark and white magics, that has access to a lower tier Cure 2.... lol
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    Not enough Facepalms

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    I would like to see a mage tank, but I'm not quite sure it would be good to make Red Mage that tank. That'd be two mmorpgs in a row they didn't catch the original essence then lol.
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