Thread: A plea for 3.0 and beyond: Job Customization

Originally Posted by fireslash

more separation, and less mixing

Yes and no. More Individualization and specialization and less / no mixing.

DNC/thf, DNC/sam, SAM/thf, PLD/rdm, PLD/nin...

I enjoyed these things back in XI...BACK IN XI. I do not wish to see this now. If that is the case, just make a masterclass/job, name it Bob and watch the fireworks.

Aside from all the balances issues and stuff already mentioned, this system was technically already in place for 1.0 and for the most part people hated it. Classes had no unique identity, besides a few unique skills for each class, everyone was required to have the same cross class abilities equipped or you simply wouldn't be invited to groups.

Pugilists functioned more or less exactly the same as lancers which functioned much the same as Marauders, all while distinguishable only by their weapons and few unique abilities. The player polls (Player Poll) conducted pretty much highlighted that one of the top things players wanted was more class uniqueness and a more stringent stat system that allocated points based on your class and not allocated however you felt like it.

As for the other hugely demanded customisation systems people want, you just have to look at both WoW and FFXI's merit systems to see how badly they worked and why customisation is nothing but an illusion. Horizontal progression will suffer from the same thing unless they use a system like FFXI gear swapping (which I personally never want see ever again). People will always work out the best options to pick and if you don't pick those same options, well goodluck getting into anything that requires a party.

The thing is mmo players go on and on about wanting customization but at the end of the day, we dont, we just want the best build.. so what would end up happening is that certain "builds" will became constant and any1 running anything other than those will be looked down about cuse "he doesnt play the class like his suppose to".

Not to mention the balancing nightmare.

My opinion: Get rid of the class/job system, leaving only the job which they can then make feel even more unique (ie make bard more supportish) and expand cross-class skill available to more than 2 other jobs

As was just said, if you are given the opportunity to "customise" then all possible combinations get tested and compared and you only end up with one answer the most efficient/strongest build that everyone from then on must adhere to in a party scenario. So all that would change is instead of Party finder saying "clear only, ilv105 restriction" it will now be "clear only ilv105 must have xx skill equipped" You may have customisation but whats the point when all it does is get you kicked from parties by not following the most effective build.

I support this, and I hope SE will look into this option. There's only one way to play your class that is the "right" way, especially with healers this is noticable. You're either a good player, or you're bad (and you need to be crutched by another healer because you can't carry your own weight). There's no way of saying "Ok, this playstyle doesn't work for me so I'm going to do it a little differently". Nope, you better switch classes because you're weighing everyone down.