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    Actually selling vanity items is like selling lvl 50 cap or twintania win in 2.4. yes, it can be considered as P2W, but it is content nobody really care about and it's not touch current relevant content, even those that are old but not yet very old, like T9.
    And quite a lot of people cheat the proper way of attaining win anyway by buying Twintania run.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Felessan View Post
    it can be considered as P2W, but it is content nobody really care about
    Never heard of someone paying $10 for something he doesn't care about. One point white knights bring out is "just vanity, not really important stuff". You forget the part where if it's indeed worthless it will not sell. There is a reason why the cash shop doesn't have animal fat.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Edli View Post
    Never heard of someone paying $10 for something he doesn't care about. One point white knights bring out is "just vanity, not really important stuff". You forget the part where if it's indeed worthless it will not sell. There is a reason why the cash shop doesn't have animal fat.
    You lost whatever little credibility your argument might have had as soon as the words white knight came out.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dwill View Post
    You lost whatever little credibility your argument might have had as soon as the words white knight came out.
    No, no I really didn't. Feel free to think that way though. There is really no point in debating with you in particular.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Riepah View Post
    He has a point. The words "white knight" don't change that, no matter how much you wish they did.
    No he doesn't. See below.

    Quote Originally Posted by Edli View Post
    No, no I really didn't. Feel free to think that way though.
    Actually, you did considering you didn't even grasp what the person you quoted meant and then proceeded to make a comparison between something that only affects you (Vanity) versus something that affects everyone (the game's economy) which just shows how people like you just don't grasp the whole concept to begin with.

    Quote Originally Posted by Edli View Post
    There is really no point in debating with you in particular.

    Indeed, it must not be fun to try to make a point when you (you in a general context):
    • Use Logical fallacies.
    • Are ignorant about the topic at hand.
    • Take things out of context.
    • Make blanket statements/ sweeping generalizations.
    • Do not provide source nor facts to support one's viewpoint.
    and then someone points it out.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dwill View Post
    Indeed, it must not be fun to try to make a point when you (you in a general context):
    A point? Go reread your reply to me. Your point had nothing to do with what I was trying to say. You just got mad that I used the word white knight and then completely ignored what my point actually was. That was your point, a completely useless reply. I'll just leave it here, I really meant it when I said I'm not going to have a debate with you in particular.
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    No matter what Yoshida said, doesn't remove the fact that they are continuing, or worse yet, making official that nasty practice of double dipping.

    Someone mentioned gw2 earlier, don't forget gw2 doesn't charge you monthly for playing the game, they chose one of the models, SE wants to profit from both.

    Cash shop exclusives will remain exclusive, not obtainable in any other way, give it a year and you will end up paying over 100$ for vanity that could have been obtained in game.

    Quote Originally Posted by Dwill View Post
    You lost whatever little credibility your argument might have had as soon as the words white knight came out.
    Playing the credibility card again Dwill? "Get off your high horse" should be appropriate here.

    Quote Originally Posted by Edli View Post
    A point? Go reread your reply to me. Your point had nothing to do with what I was trying to say. You just got mad that I used the word white knight and then completely ignored what my point actually was. That was your point, a completely useless reply. I'll just leave it here, I really meant it when I said I'm not going to have a debate with you in particular.
    Just so you know, Dwill is the self-appointed judge of people's credibility.
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    Last edited by Alukah; 10-27-2014 at 06:06 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dwill View Post
    You lost whatever little credibility your argument might have had as soon as the words white knight came out.
    He has a point. The words "white knight" don't change that, no matter how much you wish they did.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Edli View Post
    Never heard of someone paying $10 for something he doesn't care about. One point white knights bring out is "just vanity, not really important stuff". You forget the part where if it's indeed worthless it will not sell. There is a reason why the cash shop doesn't have animal fat.
    Sure, there are certainly some people, and probably quite a lot that do care about.
    But they mean nothing in grand scheme of things.
    Selling of Twintania will have quite a lot of demand (as it have now for in-game cash runs), but this win means almost nothing. For person - yes, it's achievement and access to second coil. But other than that there is zero impact - you'll be in the same category as before of casual people, you'll not get access to better gear and you'll for certainly not recognized as hardcore crowd suitable for static parties.

    And it's not that all those needs are not monetized already, it's just not in the hands of company, but in the hands of (a small group of) evil hardcore guys that runs game economy.
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