Voting with my wallet

[Cynfael]

Cash shop is okay because it's vanity? Why? Because you don't care about vanity and won't be buying anything from it?

Let's have it the other way around. Let's have a P2W Cash shop but have all the vanity in game. Now I don't have to buy anything from it in order to enjoy the game, so I'm completely fine with it. Wonder what about you?

Cash shop have no place in an already P2P game. Some players enjoy vanity more than they enjoy stats. Do they need to pay more to enjoy the game than you do? I think not.

Another post predicated on the assumption that vanity will suddenly become cash-shop only.

If we keep getting vanity updates in the usual quantity with the addition of some cash shop options on top of that, what will there be to complain about?

[Razzle]

If we keep getting vanity updates in the usual quantity with the addition of some cash shop options on top of that, what will there be to complain about?

If we get +9999 str scrolls in the cash shop, in addition to the str materias we already get, what will there be to complain about?

My point still stands, you're happy (well not you personally but the group that think like that) because the stuff you like in the game dont require you to pay extra. Be it vanity, stats, or whatever.

That's not fair to people which the stuff they like in the game require them to pay extra. Be it whatever. We all pay the same amount of subscription.

[Fawkes]

If we get +9999 str scrolls in the cash shop, in addition to the str materias we already get, what will there be to complain about?

My point still stands, you're happy (well not you personally but the group that think like that) because the stuff you like in the game dont require you to pay extra. Be it vanity, stats, or whatever.

That's not fair to people which the stuff they like in the game require them to pay extra. Be it whatever. We all pay the same amount of subscription.

Pay to win affects other people's game. If I buy vanity crap your experience is not made worse. If I buy some broken stat boost item your experience can be made worse by it. And then you have to buy the item because the game is balanced for people who buy it.

I love vanity stuff, and I don't mind paying extra on top of my subscription to get it. I already have, for the soundtrack minions and moogle attire and FFXI shoes and collector's edition items. I paid extra for them all.

[Razzle]

Pay to win affects other people's game. If I buy vanity crap your experience is not made worse.

Again, this depends of what kind of player are you. Pay to win affects players who don't "win". "Win" can be having the best stats for player X and having the coolest pet for player Y. Win means whatever makes you enjoy the game. Unless we talk about PvP advantage through cash shop, where then it's a different win XD

A player who likes vanity more than stats will care less that other people have better stats through cash items, and vice versa.

And I don't like how you compare the bonus items to cash shop ones.

[Fawkes]

And I don't like how you compare the bonus items to cash shop ones.

Please, explain the difference between upgrading to the digital collector's edition and buying from the cash shop.

[Razzle]

Please, explain the difference between upgrading to the digital collector's edition and buying from the cash shop.

Honestly there is not much differance, but what's your point? It doesn't mean "the "digital CE" didn't make me raise an eyebrow lol It actually did hint for me that SE is "testing the waters" concerning cash shop, if anything. Of course, I didn't support it. I actually thought it was a one-time thing, but seeing as the Cash station is going to be expanded upon and most of the players supporting it do so because the stuff in there don't really interest them and they won't have to pay extra for it, are pretty selfish, and I just point that out and voice my concern.