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    Quote Originally Posted by NeverYolo View Post
    Let's look at how far WoW has gone since opening its cash shop!!
    https://us.battle.net/shop/en/product/game/wow

    ....Nope, nothing spectacular. Oh boy, a level boost is the most OP thing there. You could have fun and level a job yourself or pay to have it done instantly for you.
    I guess you haven't heard that they are or will be trying to sell some kind buffs in the Asian market. Then if it goes well there, they where thinking of adding it in EU/NA side.

    Quote Originally Posted by NeverYolo View Post
    Burger analogy Snippet!
    Bad analogy, is bad. It would more be akin to one of those all you can eat places that only have an entrance fee. And then they suddenly started selling some of the things on the side.
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    The people at SE, Yoshi-P included, are all a part of a business. They are not your friends. Again, I must repeat, they are not your friends. If there is a generally accepted means, by the consumer base, for better income (which, by business standards and ideology, means better production of goods to satisfy consumer demands), they'll do it. A cash shop for cosmetics serves a number of purposes. Players who falsely have a sense of principle, and whatever other "feel-good" thought, are only really fooling themselves.

    By all means, people should vote with their wallet, but try to pick your battles wisely. Hating on a company for throwing on some goods that serve pure vanity purposes (which is short lived in actual practice by the player), just shows you picked your battle poorly. It serves your purpose, but there are better things for you to hate on than that. If the only worth of the game for you is obtaining every piece of gear/pet/mount/look possible without a cash shop, then it truly is unfortunate for you. I'm sorry it came to that, but you are one of the very... very few that find exclusive worth of a game to be like that. And, as always, not everyone can be pleased when something happens.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Amberion View Post
    I guess you haven't heard that they are or will be trying to sell some kind buffs in the Asian market. Then if it goes well there, they where thinking of adding it in EU/NA side.
    You mean players in Asia are allowed to play for more than 4 hours at a time now? If I was limited to short hours of play because of my country and/or hoards of low income gold sellers, I'd want the most of it too! But, they haven't done this, nor have the published anything stating that they will be doing this.


    Quote Originally Posted by Amberion View Post
    Bad analogy, is bad. It would more be akin to one of those all you can eat places that only have an entrance fee. And then they suddenly started selling some of the things on the side.
    Even so, are we talkin $3.99 all you can eat pizza, $8.99 all you can eat chinese, or $30 all you can eat sushi and snow crab legs and steak...
    I'd rather go to the $8.99 place, and then if I REALLY wanted some high end sushi just for vanity sake... if they offered to sell me some for a little fee, I wouldn't be upset. I'd be happy. Cause I still get a huge selection for $8.99.

    HOW'S THAT ANALOGY, ANALOGY JUDGER?!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zohnax View Post
    "However, outdated and cumbersome programming choices in the game code prevented the more radical changes necessary to improve the game."
    Too bad there is still more of that code, and bad choices, still in the game, or new bad code, and new bad choices, added to the game. Even so, 2.0 is a much better version overall.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Amberion View Post
    I guess you haven't heard that they are or will be trying to sell some kind buffs in the Asian market. Then if it goes well there, they where thinking of adding it in EU/NA side.
    You mean that Experience Potion that was found in 2013 on the PTR, that was confirmed to be for the asian market only due to their rules on MMO. That same potion we haven't heard of in almost a year ?

    At this point, it looks you guys are trying to scavenge things to be mad about.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dwill View Post
    You mean that Experience Potion that was found in 2013 on the PTR, that was confirmed to be for the asian market only due to their rules on MMO. That same potion we haven't heard of in almost a year ?

    At this point, it looks you guys are trying to scavenge things to be mad about.
    I was sure it was a fairly new article. Now I'm not sure sure anymore... But what I do know at least, is that Blizzard is looking into adding convenience items. That was not mined, but from blizzard themselves.
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    That's ok OP, the cash shop will make up for your lost subscription. we got this.

    Have fun elsewhere.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NeverYolo View Post
    You mean players in Asia are allowed to play for more than 4 hours at a time now? If I was limited to short hours of play because of my country and/or hoards of low income gold sellers, I'd want the most of it too! But, they haven't done this, nor have the published anything stating that they will be doing this.
    Apparently Chinese players also have to pay hourly due to the gold selling sweat shops getting really bad over there as well. Felt I should add that in.

    http://wow.joystiq.com/2014/10/03/wo...s-up-in-china/
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zohnax View Post
    All this complaining based on misinformation, assumptions, and fear is getting ridiculous. You can either trust what Yoshi-P has said multiple times now, or you can live as a slave to your own ignorance, but stop trying to drag other players out the door with your bad, misinformed decisions.
    Considering what he says usually isn't accurate and we've been slammed time and time again by believing what was said...no thanks. I'm not going to put my trust in any dev that adds a cash shop to a subscription model. There is no place for double dipping. And every time they play damage control and tell the playerbase not to worry, they always end up caving at some point to pressure and demands from higher up and add more and more things bit by bit until you suddenly have boosters, cosmetic outfits, pets, mounts, etc and all of the new good stuff comes out in the shop instead of in the game itself.
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    The OP simply made a non-raging post to give SE his reason as of why he's leaving the game. Why can't some of you let him do whatever he wants, and give his feedback just as SE has told us countless times to do? Is it so important to you and to your lives to belittle or actually care about where the OP puts his money on? Is he paying with your money? Are you getting money from him? Then why don't you stop acting like little kids that think that they're funny, and simply move on? Grow up.

    And it doesn't matter if the cash shop makes up for his lost subscription. The fact is that he doesn't enjoy the game with it and he chooses to leave. There's nothing bad about it, nor did he say that the game will fail without his sub. He is simply being true to his feelings and does what every responsible consumer should do in his situation. It's as simple as that.
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