Voting with my wallet

[Vhailor]

The amount of money Square Enix is going to make from the cash shop is going to astronomically crush any amount of loss from people upset about the matter and unsubscribing. You'll have one less game to enjoy that's it.

Likely so, though I would point out that for most of the people who are leaving, they likely don't enjoy the game that much to begin with. Catering to the mainstream makes good business sense, but you won't attract certain gamers when you do this. It's a choice SE has clearly made, and they'll profit from it - but they'll lose some of their customer base in the process.

My thoughts on this are fairly basic - FFXIV is being designed with accessibility in mind. This is probably the most obvious principle that SE keeps in mind with any particular decision they make. This also results in a particular type of game, which in turn attracts a particular segment of gamers. Given that XIV is also a "spiritual successor" to both FFXI and XIV 1.0, it's important to note that the community ARR attracts is quite different from the community that embraced XI and XIV 1.0.

As a result, a lot of people, myself included, embraced ARR initially before slowly realizing that the game didn't appeal to us. The cash shop is just the latest item we don't like - but it's a fairly visible one, easily vilified. It's a creation that is largely tolerated / embraced by the crowd that ARR is targeting - which doesn't include some of us that loved XI or 1.0. So, as a result, there's a lot of friction on the forums for the moment. It's not that any side is "right" or "wrong" - it's just that some of us don't like how ARR is being developed. This assessment is relatively independent of the business side of things, so the argument about SE being a business is somewhat irrelevant.

Ultimately, those of us who dislike ARR's direction will likely leave. That's our right as consumers, and a sacrifice that SE is knowingly making. That said, many of us will continue to make our views known on the forums, as is our right - so as to let SE know, in an angry fashion or not, that we dislike what they're doing to a title we wanted to enjoy. There's no point in "arguing" with this feedback; it's not directed at other players (in general), nor is it an argument that can be won, by either side. It's simply a result of individuals voicing their opinions in a public fashion.

[DeadRiser]

Bye Felicia

[RoninDarkchild]

Ughhh this again.....
Why must everyone exiting insist on making a dramatic exit?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f1Hnv4nRsnA

That cash shop for vanity is NO different from exclusive items that you get from buying certain versions of the game for extra cash. These same people raging, stayed.....
So SE has to offer CDs, and a Collectors edition so those ppl will not whine? I dont see the Coeurl or Fat Choco mounts offered in game like the demands here...

No ones world has crumbled just because they do not have access to those mounts, a Helm of Light, or a Cat Sith minion......
The market has spoken (given the number of ppl who DO have those items and paid the EXTRA MONEY to have them)... and it doesnt care. So QQ more and quit over silly things that do not effect you unless you want it to.

There is a very specific reason games go F2P..... And it is when the game cannot hold a profitable subscription model.... Not because it gives vanity items in cash shop.

[Riepah]

Ughhh this again.....
Why must everyone exiting insist on making a dramatic exit?

The question you SHOULD be asking is "Why do people (including myself) insist on bumping the thread and make it over 15 pages long?"

[Felessan]

The point of leveling other classes to level cap is you help both the economy through gathering and crafting lower level items while leveling it (DoL/DoH) which benefits other players who did not cheat their way to level cap. Leveling a new class helps new players by also having someone to play with and do lower level dungeons and such when in the sense of DoW/DoM classes instead of lacking in people to play with or help along the way for those who didn't buy their max level characters.

The price tag is too restrictive to make a difference on a large scale, thus the real impact for low level activities will be around zero. Actually I see that most people who'll use it comes from the crowd that already gave several other classes at 50 level, and this people usually have means just to skip everything you mentioned and go for "optimized" levelling route.
I don't see it included now as game is still expanding, but at something like 5-6th anniversary, when playerbase is already stabilized - they'll probably add it.

WoW has had a steady decrease in subscribers for a long time but the exodus was only hastened with P2W options such as buying level skip to 90. If SE added such an option to FF14 I would quit too, if they keep it pure vanity only items such as pets, mounts and such then I am fine with it. WoW is not an example that should be followed these days unless you to wish to do more damage than good upon this MMO, it is still hemorrhaging players at a very high rate. Do not repeat the same mistakes WoW made.

WoW decline for most part have nothing to do with decisions that were made, it's just way too old already. MMO tends to have a major decline from its peak number on their 10th anniversary and there is not much to do to battle this. Games become old and people just get tired with the same game for many years.
Most "successfull" MMO peaks out at their 5-6th year, be it WoW or Everquest/UO/FF11, and than gradually start declining.

[WinterSolstice]

The only reason this waste of a thread is even here is because it's the weekend.

[Dreklore]

Wait so your telling me your quitting the game because they added a optional feature to the game? if they made the stuff on the Cash shop like say you can only get say dark knight via this way then I understand your plight but if its just items that increase say exp or gil or the current service on the moogle station then i say its fair and just because its not forcing me to buy it.

The way the op is acting is somewhat to a childish mentality you will get no pity from me and I say good ridden's your leaving it means 1 less person to complain.

[Kyoskai]

if they made the stuff on the Cash shop like say you can only get say dark knight via this way .

I'm probably kidding...

[Evangela]

Can I have your gil, your items, your house, and your chocobo?

[Miyu20]

We will combat RMTs
Failed: Cash shop only further encourages RMTs. You can run ALL the bots you like and never get banned.

Sorry but I am really tired right now so I can't connect the two but how does Cash shop encourage further RMT?