Voting with my wallet

[Errors]

I wonder if the exp boosting head gear will be purchasable via chash shop eventually?

The one that only gives 20% boost to exp when below level 25?

[Cynfael]

I wonder if the exp boosting head gear will be purchasable via chash shop eventually?

Would be a smart idea to give the option to players who didn't opt for a premium purchase at the start.

[Nikita]

I wonder if the exp boosting head gear will be purchasable via chash shop eventually?

The Garlond Goggles? Yes please! D: I've wanted them for vanity for a while. I never see anyone selling the code on eBay anymore. >___>

[ApolloGenX]

At this point, there's no point arguing.

It is clear there are many that post here that either want P2W or F2P and are supportive of a cash shop, because they know - and everyone reading their comments knows they want to use the cash shop and see it expand.

There are those that don't want this.

It's clear from other games and the market that the players that want the cash shop and P2W are the prevailing market force - so arguing against it is really pointless. If SE has given in to the P2W trend, what is the point of arguing it anymore?

[Abriael]

At this point, there's no point arguing.

Especially considering that after making some posts that seriously lack in knowledge of how the gaming market works, and having been called on it, you're trying to cover it up by misprepresenting the position of those that proved you wrong.

It is clear there are many that post here that either want P2W or F2P and are supportive of a cash shop, because they know - and everyone reading their comments knows they want to use the cash shop and see it expand.

This is a serious strawman argument.

Not having problems with a cosmetic-only cash shop, which is becoming a standard for P2P MMORPGs nowadays, does not in any way indicate wanting pay to win or free to play.

If you find yourself unable to argue against someone else's position without misrepresenting and warping it beyond recognition to make it easier to tackle, you should probably just realize that you're wrong and withdraw.

[Felessan]

Actually selling vanity items is like selling lvl 50 cap or twintania win in 2.4. yes, it can be considered as P2W, but it is content nobody really care about and it's not touch current relevant content, even those that are old but not yet very old, like T9.
And quite a lot of people cheat the proper way of attaining win anyway by buying Twintania run.

[Edli]

it can be considered as P2W, but it is content nobody really care about

Never heard of someone paying $10 for something he doesn't care about. One point white knights bring out is "just vanity, not really important stuff". You forget the part where if it's indeed worthless it will not sell. There is a reason why the cash shop doesn't have animal fat.

[Dwill]

Never heard of someone paying $10 for something he doesn't care about. One point white knights bring out is "just vanity, not really important stuff". You forget the part where if it's indeed worthless it will not sell. There is a reason why the cash shop doesn't have animal fat.

You lost whatever little credibility your argument might have had as soon as the words white knight came out.

[Edli]

You lost whatever little credibility your argument might have had as soon as the words white knight came out.

No, no I really didn't. Feel free to think that way though. There is really no point in debating with you in particular.

[Dwill]

He has a point. The words "white knight" don't change that, no matter how much you wish they did.

No he doesn't. See below.

No, no I really didn't. Feel free to think that way though.

Actually, you did considering you didn't even grasp what the person you quoted meant and then proceeded to make a comparison between something that only affects you (Vanity) versus something that affects everyone (the game's economy) which just shows how people like you just don't grasp the whole concept to begin with.

There is really no point in debating with you in particular.

Indeed, it must not be fun to try to make a point when you (you in a general context):

• Use Logical fallacies.
• Are ignorant about the topic at hand.
• Take things out of context.
• Make blanket statements/ sweeping generalizations.
• Do not provide source nor facts to support one's viewpoint.

and then someone points it out.