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    The whole thing confuses me right now. In FFXIV right now, every job takes the form of a Soul Crystal that, when applied to a class, allows that class to take the form of an advanced class, or a "Job". This is explained by classes being something everyone can use, and Jobs only being usable by the "Warrior of Light". This is largely due to classes being masters of the use of a certain weapon or magic style, while Jobs take on greater role, expanding on the use of that weapon or magic style.

    A classless Dark Knight seems to imply that only a Warrior of Light can wield 2-handed swords and no one else. It... makes no sense at all. I'm just waiting for someone in the development team to explain what the heck they mean by a classless Job. I mean, does a Dark Knight just have the ability to override any class? Are we going to start seeing DRK BSMs and MINs?
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    Quote Originally Posted by HakuroDK View Post
    The whole thing confuses me right now. In FFXIV right now, every job takes the form of a Soul Crystal that, when applied to a class, allows that class to take the form of an advanced class, or a "Job". This is explained by classes being something everyone can use, and Jobs only being usable by the "Warrior of Light".

    A classless Dark Knight seems to imply that only a Warrior of Light can wield 2-handed swords. I'm just waiting for someone in the development team to explain what the heck they mean by a classless Job.
    its means that u instead of going lvl1-30 with X class then lvl30-60 with Dark Knight you will go lvl1-60 as Dark Knight..so basicly u will get ur soul crystal at lvl1
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    Quote Originally Posted by Erepio View Post
    its means that u instead of going lvl1-30 with X class then lvl30-60 with Dark Knight you will go lvl1-60 as Dark Knight..so basicly u will get ur soul crystal at lvl1
    Which means that, technically, no one in Eorzea other than someone who holds the "Soul of the Dark Knight" can use two-handed swords. Which means no normal person can do so. Not even a Marauder, which uses two-handed axes. Which begs the question of whether or not there will be a large enough quantity of a weapon forged that can only exclusively be used by a Warrior of Light.
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    I don't think they will be removed from the game. Existing classes will still... exist. But being as they are not including a class for Dark Knight, it may very well be that from 3.0 onward future Jobs will not have a class.

    Or they may add new classes when they feel the need for new cross class abilities to be necessary.

    But judging from their approach to Dark Knight, I think they will likely not be adding any new classes after 3.0. Who knows for sure though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ecks007 View Post
    I don't think they will be removed from the game. Existing classes will still... exist. But being as they are not including a class for Dark Knight, it may very well be that from 3.0 onward future Jobs will not have a class.

    Or they made add new classes when they feel the need for new cross class abilities to be necessary.

    But judging from their approach to Dark Knight, I think they will likely not be adding any new classes after 3.0. Who knows for sure though.
    no new class for 3.0 have pretty much been confirm by Yoshi-P when a) said new job for xpac not classes
    b) at the gamerescape interview when they ask him about why he only said new job he reply with basicly, good catch
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    Quote Originally Posted by Erepio View Post
    no new class for 3.0 have pretty much been confirm by Yoshi-P when a) said new job for xpac not classes
    b) at the gamerescape interview when they ask him about why he only said new job he reply with basicly, good catch
    Good point, I forgot about that... didn't know what to think about it at the time.
    Yah, sounds like the expansion IS bigger than any of us were thinking... probably a whole new redesigned job system. Thank Yoshi-P! We might get a real Summoner and not a dinky Arcanist with different looking pets! Perhaps this will give individuality back to other jobs as well.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NeverYolo View Post
    Good point, I forgot about that... didn't know what to think about it at the time.
    Yah, sounds like the expansion IS bigger than any of us were thinking... probably a whole new redesigned job system. Thank Yoshi-P! We might get a real Summoner and not a dinky Arcanist with different looking pets! Perhaps this will give individuality back to other jobs as well.
    I wouldn't bet on this personally, I think we will keep the class system for the first classes.
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    The class system should be removed in my opinion. It serves no benefit to the player. Solo play in the open world is so easy that having the benefit of all cross classes is pointless. The only argument for would probably be PvP I would think.
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    Translating from Japanese to English is very difficult and things get lost in translation. It will be sorted out and explained eventually - no point worrying or speculating with virtually no information.

    I'm just glad they officially announced it (Dark Knight).
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    Guys I'm sorry but i really can not see them removing the class system anytime soon, that would require way to much work, for one they would beed to either delete all the class story and lore or make it based around jobs, then they would have to rework all the job story quests and lore, not to mention rename all the guilds, re work all the class traits and abilities so they belong to the job instead, that not forgetting reworking menus and the like

    I can see them either retweaking the class system or having the expansion have classless jobs, dont forget we have hardly no knowledge of the ishardian lore, their history, for all we know the jobs in their city state work differently to ours. did the allagan civilization even have a pressence in ishagard and dravania ?

    It just mind boggling that everyone thinks it will be removed entirely when the class system is so tied into 2.0 and the content we currently have.
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