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    Quote Originally Posted by Danbo05 View Post
    It should also be noted, if you're a DPS, and you're pushing out HP just to deal damage, won't that just make it more work on the healer to heal you? What if the healer had to choose between you and the tank who's almost dead? Of course they're gonna choose the tank first. Also, it should be put in the open world perspective as well. Obviously as a DPS class, your defense is nowhere near that of a tank's and if you can't take hits that well, and are trying to deal out damage at the cost of HP, you're gonna drop dead PREEEETTy fast to random mobs. *looks at chinchillas*
    Yah sacrificing your HP to deal damage in XIV is akin to suicide in a lot of fights. DRKs gave healers conniptions in XI when they would pop ALL their cooldowns inc. Blood Weapon. Usually ended with the DRK taking hate off the tank and getting one-shot. They'd have to get more HP than even WAR to be a viable HP-->Damage DPS and at that point you may as well make them a tank.
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    Developers please.

    Samurai would have suited being a Tank so much more than DRK. DRK should have remained a DPS class and used a Scythe.

    These things seems so obvious, what is going wrong in this development process?! lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by Riko_Futatabi View Post
    Samurai would have suited being a Tank so much more than DRK. DRK should have remained a DPS class and used a Scythe.

    These things seems so obvious, what is going wrong in this development process?! lol
    Or... you know, you can look at all the other FF games and not just XI.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Danbo05 View Post
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    To be fair, you can make anything work as a DPS if you want to. Don't get hit by an AoE, spend health on Attacks, gain it back with others, with the proper cooldowns , Traits, any job can work with any role if it's designed to fit that role. If you're gaining back health you spend anyway, no one has to heal you there. Designing jobs takes time, and can be hard to balance properly right away. But it just requires an idea of the role you want it to play and a base idea of how you want it to be played in that role.
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    Quote Originally Posted by winxbloom61 View Post
    i think thats kinda not even worth saying the only way a samurai can heal is with potions never ever gets a healing trait
    Actually, in Tactics it had abilities to heal, cast protect/shell, and cast regen/haste.

    Of course, it was also a Magic-based DD. >_>
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    Quote Originally Posted by Viridiana View Post
    Of course, it was also a Magic-based DD. >_>
    You mean it was something different from how XI does things? Blasphemy!
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    WHY
    CAN WE NOT HAVE
    A SWORD DPS
    WHY

    xc
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    People get upset when MNK and DRG use Blood for Blood.... Now we're all crying that we don't have an entire DPS class based around that idea?

    Am I the only one seeing the stupidity in all of this?
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    Quote Originally Posted by whoopeeragon View Post
    You mean it was something different from how XI does things? Blasphemy!
    Indeed.

    Quote Originally Posted by Sessurea View Post
    WHY
    CAN WE NOT HAVE
    A SWORD DPS
    WHY

    xc
    This is really the only issue I have with it. They're free to do whatever, and I can kinda see DRK working as a tank, but I was really hoping for a sword DD. >_>
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cynric View Post
    To be fair, you can make anything work as a DPS if you want to. Don't get hit by an AoE, spend health on Attacks, gain it back with others, with the proper cooldowns , Traits, any job can work with any role if it's designed to fit that role. If you're gaining back health you spend anyway, no one has to heal you there. Designing jobs takes time, and can be hard to balance properly right away. But it just requires an idea of the role you want it to play and a base idea of how you want it to be played in that role.
    Hah, dodge.

    On a serious note, there's a lot of battles in endgame content that involve fights that have wide damage AOEs that can't be dodged. And those take out well over half (defensive manuevers, primal enrages) of your HP just from one BOOM. Some even well over 2/3 of your HP (Megaflare). You would have to be very timely on your rotation, just to get health back, just in time to avoid getting One shotted by a single unavoidable mechanic.
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