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    Quote Originally Posted by SongJoohee View Post
    Starts as the job from Level 1?
    I guess it'd have to. That just blows my mind and now I'm wondering why they didn't do that with Scholar and Summoner. It'll be interesting to see!

    I don't mind that it's a Tank class I just hope that it plays differently enough from Warrior and Paladin to be entertaining to play. I have both at 50 and they're different enough but the experience is basically the same to me. "Stand in front of mob, build hate w/skills, mitigate damage." Maybe it will mitigate damage through parrying or counter attacking?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Resheph View Post
    I guess it'd have to. That just blows my mind and now I'm wondering why they didn't do that with Scholar and Summoner. It'll be interesting to see!

    I don't mind that it's a Tank class I just hope that it plays differently enough from Warrior and Paladin to be entertaining to play. I have both at 50 and they're different enough but the experience is basically the same to me. "Stand in front of mob, build hate w/skills, mitigate damage." Maybe it will mitigate damage through parrying or counter attacking?
    Considering how DRK works in other games it's likely to be a blood tank. It won't mitigate the damage it'll offset it by draining enemy HP, or mitigate through attribute debuffs/drains.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Resheph View Post
    I don't understand how it doesn't have a base class. This am not make sense.
    Equip the weapon to jump straight to the job? Or maybe classes are going by the wayside, and we're getting Jobs with cross job skills ? I don't know lol, does sound weird.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shougun View Post
    Equip the weapon to jump straight to the job? Or maybe classes are going by the wayside, and we're getting Jobs with cross job skills ? I don't know lol, does sound weird.
    Classes are going by the wayside. They have already said on many occasions, that they are re-doing the class/battle system come 3.0. starting with 2.4 onward they will be making subtle changes to prepare for it.

    This is good, I have been waiting a long time for this to happen. Probably going to have to level sub class to 30 and with job unlocked, to unlock all new Jobs from 3.0 and going forward.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rustyhagun View Post
    Classes are going by the wayside. They have already said on many occasions, that they are re-doing the class/battle system come 3.0. starting with 2.4 onward they will be making subtle changes to prepare for it.

    This is good, I have been waiting a long time for this to happen. Probably going to have to level sub class to 30 and with job unlocked, to unlock all new Jobs from 3.0 and going forward.
    Yes, but how will it get reworked? Outright removing it would be stupid.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Balipu View Post
    Yes, but how will it get reworked? Outright removing it would be stupid.
    That the fun of evolving a game. Can't wait to see what the devs have in mind.

    Also I'm surprised none of you are speculating that Dark Knight will be the first Mage Tank in game. Meaning it will have high Magic evasion/dodge/parry, and not physical Doge/evasion/parry

    Which would make it very unique and interesting. And that example giving about High End game....with 2/3 of HP draining from Mega-flare. This tank would only loose 1/3 hp from mega flare...etc
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    I will like to point out the reason why Dark Knight may not have a class is because it is a Advance Job.

    Yoshi-P mentioned back in 2.0 he has plans for Advance Jobs that will require may be 2 Jobs to unlock such as the example he used being Red Mage requiring both Black Mage and White Mage.

    Though I question how a Dark knight will work as a Tank since in past FF lore the Dark Knight was known for being a DD Job with tank like stats that was used to keep itself alive while it used its own HP to perform High DD level damage.
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    Why is everyone so surprise?

    When they said they were adding DRK, it was pretty obvious it was going to be a tank class. Did they not say they were adding a tank, a dps, and a healer? Well if ROG/NIN is the dps and we were still waiting on hearing about the tank and healer classes, it's pretty easy to figure out it would be a tank. I think it will make a cool tank. Why would they release another DPS class? We have plenty of those. Going back many years ago when FF2 was released, before we knew it was actually the 4th game in the series, on SNES Cecil was a DRK and he was considered a tank.
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    Quote Originally Posted by EdwinLi View Post
    I will like to point out the reason why Dark Knight may not have a class is because it is a Advance Job.

    Yoshi-P mentioned back in 2.0 he has plans for Advance Jobs that will require may be 2 Jobs to unlock such as the example he used being Red Mage requiring both Black Mage and White Mage.
    Someone who actually uses their brain when reading that statement! And not jumping on the 'get rid of the classes/yay no classes anymore' train!

    Sure, adjustments here and there will be nice, but getting rid of the current classes? You'll be butchering the lore and backstories of three city-states to the point that history may as well take a dump people obviously don't care for it. Asides from PLD, none of the jobs have ANY special history with the three starter city-states. Let's use Gridania as an example~

    Gridania's lore involving the elementals will be utterly destroyed if Conjurer got removed. You can hardly say its easy to replace conjurers with White Mages considering their powers have a substantial difference, with White Mage already established a source of their power (Amdapor City) and how Conjurers have a deep history with interactions of the forest's elementals.. If DRGs were to replace Lancers? May as well cut out the entire history of Wood Wailers then, because Dragoons came from Ishgard, so congratulations, you just eliminated a third of Gridania's battle force!

    I don't mind adjustments. I want jobs themselves to have more prominent features and skills, but cutting out the class system is not an option.

    It's not hard to imagine why DRK may not require a class. Of Limsa Lominsa, Gridania, Ul'dah and Ishgard, Ishgard is the one city-state which ties a job so heavily into its history that it doesn't have a base class in its city of origin; Dragoon. Or if it does, it's expected by lore for Dragoons to lead the war against the Dravanian Horde, so it remains a big part of Ishgard. Seeing this, it won't be hard to imagine the expansion having other cities with heavy roots with jobs instead of classes.
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    great DK was a tank we need more cool tanks, and this is not ffXI so please people, stop to want this game to be another game
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