Dark Knight

[Alexander_Dragonfang]

DRK makes 0 sense has a tank considering FF history.
All their skills are about dealing more damage than enemies do to them by doing HP/DPS trades and inflicting status effects. DRK should be a DPS class, knight sword DPS class as always has been. In fact DRK are Black Magic and stats downgrading skills.

SAM on the other hand, considering FF history, has been always more "tankish" (actually a reaction-tank with support skills) and its tradition as a class goes back to Ogre Tactic`s Swordmaster class, nowhere near a DPS class.

But well, SE can do whatever, but more than a few will be dissapointed if DRK is DPS and SAM is not a tank.

[Mugiawara]

DRK makes 0 sense has a tank considering FF history.
All their skills are about dealing more damage than enemies do to them by doing HP/DPS trades and inflicting status effects. DRK should be a DPS class, knight sword DPS class as always has been. In fact DRK are Black Magic and stats downgrading skills.

SAM on the other hand, considering FF history, has been always more "tankish" (actually a reaction-tank with support skills) and its tradition as a class goes back to Ogre Tactic`s Swordmaster class, nowhere near a DPS class.

But well, SE can do whatever, but more than a few will be dissapointed if DRK is DPS and SAM is not a tank.

We're still going to get more tanks...Just probably not this expansion.
I'm sure the 2 class/jobs we'll get is it for this entire expansion. Rogue/Ninja just hit the before mark,
unless they shoot another DPS in it COULD be Samurai.

No one is saying we don't need more tanks, it just would have been preferred to have DRK as DPS and Samurai (or some other job) as tank.

But whatever Im still excited for it. Almost makes me not even care about Ninja now

I understand but look how they did Bard lol. I mean they completely killed that one lol.
Just because some jobs where this and that in XI or whatever doesn't mean it can't
change in different Final Fantasies...like they did bard but killed. I say let's wait and see
how DRK is first, could be lots of fun.

[OmniKLD]

DRK makes 0 sense has a tank considering FF history.
All their skills are about dealing more damage than enemies do to them by doing HP/DPS trades and inflicting status effects. DRK should be a DPS class, knight sword DPS class as always has been. In fact DRK are Black Magic and stats downgrading skills.

SAM on the other hand, considering FF history, has been always more "tankish" (actually a reaction-tank with support skills) and its tradition as a class goes back to Ogre Tactic`s Swordmaster class, nowhere near a DPS class.

But well, SE can do whatever, but more than a few will be dissapointed if DRK is DPS and SAM is not a tank.

I see youve never played ff4 n are goin by ff11 knowledge

[Lori]

I see youve never played ff4 n are goin by ff11 knowledge

I see you didnt either, because DRK was never a tank in FF4

[Dashuto]

I see you didnt either, because DRK was never a tank in FF4

It was the 2nd tankiest job in the game. Look at the stats of it and everything else in that game. Only PLD has more HP, Vit, Def etc by comparison to its mean.

Just because it had an HP sacrifice doesn't change it was built as a heavy melee with a shield that took damage better than everything else but Paladin.

Please also review FFtactics and its ridiculously tanky dark knight spamming drains and being nigh unkillable.

Check into FFX2, where there is some debate, but again dark is a super high HP melee, durable, and has drains aside from hp sacrifice.

FFXI is the only instance where Drk was a glass cannon DPS.

[Alexander_Dragonfang]

Please also review FFtactics and its ridiculously tanky dark knight spamming drains and being nigh unkillable.

hahahahahahahahahahahahahahhahahahaha.
MNK, 2-hands, DRK dead. ROFL!

DRK just had some resistance cause of armor (0 evasion) and the HP absorb, but its role was to do damage and status effects, it never was good for anything but that, putting a DRK hoping for him to tank anything be it on single or multiplayers was lulz.

There were far too many classes on FFT that were good tanks that the DRK just can`t make it to the top 10. Damn, the Oracle was a better tank xD!

[Alexander_Dragonfang]

I see youve never played ff4 n are goin by ff11 knowledge

All the other way arround, i never played FFXI. I played FFIV and if you call something a tank cause it can "tank" during the first hours of game... Well, lol. And kain is better tank than Cecil before he goes Paladin in fact, so LOL.

Now, what is the best entry on the series for what the DRK is: http://finalfantasy.wikia.com/wiki/D...ight_(Tactics)
0 defense and evasion, pure DPS.

[Chione]

I've been looking forward to DRK myself. It doesn't bother me that its a tank job in the slightest. (My main concern is how people treat new tanks, to be honest.) I'm interested to see how this will work out. I have a feeling it might even end up being a healer's favorite.

Drain has already been mentioned, but there's also Dread Spikes and the Absorb-Stat spells. Combining those with some other "traditional" FF DRK abilities, like sacrificing say, 10%-20% (that's only 100-200 per 1k) of your hp to turn any attack skill into an aoe, I think we're looking at a pretty powerful, self-sustaining tank. I'm imagining Sacrifice + Sanguine Sword/Blood Weapon on a horde of uglies with lots of flashy XIV stuff. Rawr.

Likely they'll also have a DPS mode that they can throw on for OT. Vehemence/Last Resort stance maybe. Something akin to PLD Sword stance, or a WAR not using Defiance.

Anyway, I plan on giving it a try. 'Cause Greatswords. <3

[dragonfire8974]

I hope samurai and drk are tanks and they introduce more jobs for dmg dealers. I don't mind there being more tank classes than healer classes considering tanks are right now the bottleneck

[dreffen]

Hey guys FF14 is a game that is allowed to stand on it's own by doing things. It doesn't need to follow decisions from the previous series.