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    Quote Originally Posted by Rosalynd View Post
    A class that has for the longest time been an offensive powerhouse that uses its own HP to augment its offensive powers has been relegated to the role of tank, a role that really shouldnt be using its own HP to augment its offensive powers.

    Yeah, i would say that it has been butchered quite thoroughly. :P
    I can defiantly see where you're coming from, particularly since DRK's last MMO outing was as a damage dealer.

    However, my view of it is like this: Dark Knight, like all Final Fantasy classes, is ever changing. In FFII it had high intelligence, stamina, HP, and a proficiently with lots of weapons (like a melee black magic user), FFIII had it using white magic (of all things!), FFIV had it being a damage dealer (but he only used swords and shields), in FFX-2 it was a damage dealer with debuffs (and protection against being debuffed).

    From its history Dark Knight has been almost a little bit of everything, but often as players we're attracted to our favorite version of it, which is great, but that doesn't mean its the only version.
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    Last edited by WellFooled; 10-25-2014 at 09:39 PM.
    A true paladin... will sheathe his sword.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WellFooled View Post
    We have about five seconds worth of information, at least wait until we get a one sentence summery of the class before we jump to 'butchering classic'
    That is a good point
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rosalynd View Post
    And there goes one iconic class butchered by the XIV team....

    Truly disappointed in it being a tank.
    In FFIV there could be much speculation about what role Cecil played as DRK in the game. Are you only thinking about XI? If so, how is that classic? FFIV is the classic if anything.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chiramu View Post
    In FFIV there could be much speculation about what role Cecil played as DRK in the game. Are you only thinking about XI? If so, how is that classic? FFIV is the classic if anything.
    nononono. you're wrong. There is only Final Fantasy XI in existence. Count it: zero. eleven. Fenrir has always been an Esper named in the very same breath with Bahamut.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ashrak View Post
    nononono. you're wrong. There is only Final Fantasy XI in existence. Count it: zero. eleven. Fenrir has always been an Esper named in the very same breath with Bahamut.
    lol awesome post!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rosalynd View Post
    And there goes one iconic class butchered by the XIV team....

    Truly disappointed in it being a tank.
    You realize drk was a tank before a dps right?Check out ff4
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    Quote Originally Posted by OmniKLD View Post
    You realize drk was a tank before a dps right?Check out ff4
    Pseudo tank. Kain was actually the better tank in that game before Cecil became a paladin.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rosalynd View Post
    Pseudo tank. Kain was actually the better tank in that game before Cecil became a paladin.
    Kain also had a shield, same as FF3 dragoon, i dont see dragoon in xi or xiv having a shield...just beacuse a class was a certain way in the past doesnt mean it would be in the future
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    Quote Originally Posted by Erepio View Post
    Kain also had a shield, same as FF3 dragoon, i dont see dragoon in xi or xiv having a shield...just beacuse a class was a certain way in the past doesnt mean it would be in the future
    So i guess we all agree that past FF games are absolutely useless when it comes to inspiring jobs in XIV? If they could at least admit this i would be ok with it, but they seem pretty determined to draw alot of inspiration from previous titles in other regards.

    Hell, at this point Bravely Default is closer to the FF job cliches than XIV is.
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    Ok people who are acreaming bloody murder over dark knight being a tank let's relax. Yes traditionaly they are known as dmg dealing hp sacrificing badasses. That however does not mean they have to be I for one am kinda excited I like that SE is willing to change things up it sets the class apart from the other FF versions of dark knight. As for the fact that it don't have a base class in sure there will be some sort of requirement to unlock it and frankly I never understood the classe/job sysytem myself I mean does anyone really use a class after lvl30 for anything other then shits and giggles.i like the direction dark knight is going in and am excited to see what the gun class will bring to the table. Let's give this a chance guys before crying over the fact that your class isn't the way YOU want it.
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