Forced Level Sync (inb4 vote abandon)

[hallena]

i110 is twice the iLevel required for the easiest dungeon that syncs to it. Add to that everyone was able to clear these dungeons with no problems (even speedrunning them) before when the max iLevel you could achieve was 110.
It's a preventive measure for when they add future dungeons and armor sets to prevent people from basically soloing the dungeons.
They will literally not be any harder or easier than they are at this very moment.

I mean desync in general. I beat dael neus darnus. You think i should be able to go inside a lower level dungeon and kill a rabbit without needing 3 other players.
This putting item level desync on dungeon is probably just the beginning of future bs
What is wrong with going inside old contents and soloing it? You know what is one of the thing people do in wow when they are bored? They go solo old contents for mounts and armors. Something you cannot do in this game without friends willing to do it or waiting 1+ hour in the duty finder

[Felis]

I mean desync in general. I beat dael neus darnus. You think i should be able to go inside a lower level dungeon and kill a rabbit without needing 3 other players.
This putting item level desync on dungeon is probably just the beginning of future bs
What is wrong with going inside old contents and soloing it? You know what is one of the thing people do in wow when they are bored? They go solo old contents for mounts and armors. Something you cannot do in this game without friends willing to do it or waiting 1+ hour in the duty finder

They can also change it that you can't enter the df if your gear level is over 110.

[Reokudo]

I mean desync in general. I beat dael neus darnus. You think i should be able to go inside a lower level dungeon and kill a rabbit without needing 3 other players.
This putting item level desync on dungeon is probably just the beginning of future bs
What is wrong with going inside old contents and soloing it? You know what is one of the thing people do in wow when they are bored? They go solo old contents for mounts and armors. Something you cannot do in this game without friends willing to do it or waiting 1+ hour in the duty finder

I agree with you. We should be able to go into the lower level content(Without queuing, just walking to the entrance itself) and solo'ng it if we want to.

[Shneibel]

ilvl 110 is overkill for those dungeon, should be lower imo

[Dotsusama]

I like the way it seems to discourage speed-runs. Since old dungeons still drop the next-best tier of tomestones, the higher your iLVL the easier it would be to power through that content and gear up for alts, or pay for materials bought from those tomestones. This is just one small stepping stone; you still have to run the dungeon, and not just cheese the whole thing.

[Sylve]

I like the way it seems to discourage speed-runs. Since old dungeons still drop the next-best tier of tomestones, the higher your iLVL the easier it would be to power through that content and gear up for alts, or pay for materials bought from those tomestones. This is just one small stepping stone; you still have to run the dungeon, and not just cheese the whole thing.

Yeah, thats pretty much what i figured it was for.
That and It'd be pretty discouraging for a fresh to 50 player (think newer payer here, or an alt character) who wanted to tank. Good luck trying to hold enmity against ilvl 130+ DDs when you're in ilvl 50 starter AF.

i'd have liked to see the sync put to +30 of the min level req.

[Lithera]

I get they're attempting to keep old content fun, but honestly that's lazy and a bad idea. I know many many players who do terrible dps at i100-110, you seriously think I want to fight dps check fights in haukke manor with them synced at whatever ilvl you have planned? Also I know a lot of people who enjoy entering old content to see how fast they can burn things. this only premotes failed parties and the idea that doing those dungeons is not for fun but for quests or animus books, I know the majority of duty Finder parties for those particular instances getting synced are usually low skill as it is, removing their only way to carry them (their gear) is just going to result in arguing, people kicking, vote abandoning, etc

I get some people love the challenge this will present, but I have no idea why you're doing those dungeons for fun.

I've cleared Haukke HM just fine with two fairly fresh players at barely i60. Being synced at i110 is nothing.

[Riepah]

This is hardly different from being level-synched when you do a normal Haukke run. Since 50 is the required level for those dungeons, they can't weaken you by synching your actual level, but a fresh 50 is vastly inferior to a fully geared one, and to combat this discrepancy and keep the old level 50 dungeons from becoming easier to complete than even Sastasha, a cap on ilvl is the only solution. Ilvl gets scaled down alongside your normal level in lowie dungeons anyway, why complain about it now?

[kyuven]

why complain about it now?

People will complain about ANYTHING, that's why.
Dungeons are group content. You do them as a group. I...really have trouble seeing why this is such a hard concept. Especially since there's no lockouts on general dungeons.

[Riepah]

People will complain about ANYTHING, that's why.
Dungeons are group content. You do them as a group. I...really have trouble seeing why this is such a hard concept. Especially since there's no lockouts on general dungeons.

Actually, they're working on making some dungeons soloable or something, I've heard. Though I'm assuming they'll provide a tuned-down solo version, rather than making our current dungeons easy enough for 1 player. But yeah, some sort of scaling is required to keep group dungeons somewhat relevant - and ilvl 110 is way high, anyway.