Gender Discrimination Needs to Stop

[Sholah]

Remember to take some more water bottles in your underground bunk for when the gays will take over the world.

I'm a MtF transgender in a technically lesbian relationship and I absolutely agree with Delorean. You do not need to shove your personal views into every single video game you come across. If it's so offensive that a man can't wear a dress, move on to another game. Or make your own game. Delorean said nothing that was homophobic in any way, but you're painting them as such, and that is just plain stupid. Not everyone that disagrees with you is a bigot. Some of us are just rational people that don't see the need to force issues like this into every aspect of our lives, real or virtual.
Play the damn game instead of trying to make it another hugbox where only your personal views exist.

[DarkStaoneDragon]

No, you need to leave your political agenda back on earth before traveling into eorzea and request that developers add things to their games rather than demand them.

I agree. I remember a thread about wearing pink to support cancer survivors and people was told "there is no cancer in eorzea" and they said to keep it out of the game. Same goes for this.. if you gay please quit flaunting it in our face. You got what you want please let it be left at that. I am not trying to be rude about this subject but come on guys enough is enough. Look at FFXI I am sure there is same sex couples but they don't say here look at us.. they made rings for each other and moved on. Why can't you?

[Yamimarik]

/snip

Sword cuts both ways by the way... same can be said about straight people as well, please don't flaunt your "straightness" in others faces, they've heard enough about it, keep it to yourself, in your real life. Please don't bring your straight sexuality into Eorzea. I'm not trying to be rude or anything.

OT:
I feel it really isn't "gender discrimination" more like an oversight and it probably doesn't look well on the male model in game. Though I personally wish there was more male locked gear, just to keep it even with the female locked gear I suppose. Least we have the south seas talisman over them >:3

[Riepah]

Sword cuts both ways by the way... same can be said about straight people as well, please don't flaunt your "straightness" in others faces, they've heard enough about it, keep it to yourself, in your real life. Please don't bring your straight sexuality into Eorzea. I'm not trying to be rude or anything.

The mere fact that you are alive means your parents were involved in a straight encounter. Since the races in Eorzea seem to have two genders and they tend to age, reproduce and die just like humans do in real life, "straightness" isn't easily hidden.

[Sholah]

The mere fact that you are alive means your parents were involved in a straight encounter. Since the races in Eorzea seem to have two genders and they tend to age, reproduce and die just like humans do in real life, "straightness" isn't easily hidden.

He's very obviously referring to the players, and he's right. Anyone who treats this game as some kind of ERP dating service, or somewhere to flaunt their sexuality no matter their orientation, should be smacked upside the head. It's a damn fantasy MMO. Play the game, enjoy the story, and get that loot.

Edit: It should be noted that homosexuality is seen frequently among the NPCs in Eorzea. There doesn't seem to be a taboo against homosexual relationships, but only against marriage. I mentioned this earlier in the thread. Marriage in Eorzea seems to be treated as a business transaction.
Anyway, this thread isn't even about homosexuality. It's about people wanting to crossdress because they do it in real life and therefore absolutely MUST do it in every video game they play so everyone knows just how crossdressy and progressive they are.

[Cynric]

Working as intended. Please look forward to it.

[Miya_Carbuncle]

I definitely believe men should be allowed to wear female clothing, just like how we can wear 'male' clothing like pants and such. Both in-game and real life.

We're the ones that came up with the idea that women can wear skirts and guys can't. It's not some divine law or w/e. I find it to be a silly thing that's only in our heads.

[Ymal]

Throwing my two cents in even if this is thread is probably just a big troll.]
People in this thread act as if male characters weren't already able to wear 'dresses', what would one more 'official' change? As a female playing a male, I've come to enjoy to dress him in gear that most people wouldn't dare to use, why? Because I think it looks great and I'm having fun seeing some people reaction. As people have said this is a game. My tank wears a golden thong, and my WHM used to have that Flames mage's skirt. And no one ever gaf.
I don't expect SE to ever change their mind about it, but despite all that I honestly find it unfair that the feminine gent in this game are able to have more great glamour than male. I am able to craft those gear myself and was honestly pissed off that all I could do was to sell them. I don't care if it's a dress or not, give us a more 'proper' male version if you want.
PS; If SE doesn't want to give me a wedding dress, idc, I already have one.

[Enkrateia]

Well, that became aggressive quickly.

As both sides of the argument have been made, I will be closing the thread due to the uncivil tone of the posts within. If this thread should be started again with a civil opener and polite discussion of both sides, it may be allowed to continue. If it should be started again in a manner that begets aggressiveness and conflict, it may be removed with account actions for creating a thread with the intent of making a negative impact on the community.

Any reports already made within the thread will be investigated and handled appropriately.

LGM Enkrateia