Thank you SE!! (DF lockout)

[LineageRazor]

Whenever FC mates would ask for a tank after theirs ditched them, I would frequently get in the range of 10 ~ 20 new runs prior to getting an ongoing run. Often being the one my guildies were in.

The solution to this problem is not to to add an "In Progress Only" button. The solution is to make in-progress runs the priority when the "Join In Progress" checkbox is selected. The way it SHOULD work:

1. Player selects "Join In Progress" checkbox and signs up.
2. System checks for in-progress runs that require the player's current class. If it finds some, the player is added to the in-progress run that has waited for a member the longest.
3. If there are no in-progress runs that require the player's current class, it checks for new runs that require the player's current class. If it finds some, the player is added to the new run that has waited for a member the longest.
4. If there are no eligable runs, the player is added to the wait queue.

It is frankly astonishing to me that SE did not code it this way; for in-progress runs, the dungeon clock is ticking and empty slots should be filled as a top priority, well beyond new runs. Nevertheless, this does not warrant the addition of an "In Progress Only" button, it warrants a correction on how duty finder matching works.

Well that's a relief to hear. So is it a 30minute lockout everytime you leave the duty? I don't understand how the 24hr lockout works with that.

My presumption: You get two penalty-free withdrawls per day. Beyond that, each time you withdraw incurs a 30-minute penalty until the 24-hour lockout expires, at which point you get two more freebie withdrawls to spend.

[RayneBoemir]

While it is annoying to have people withdraw I dislike this change there has been times where I had to go to the bathroom and missed the window so now pretty screwed if oh say go to the bathroom, someone interrupted your playing time, or you went to make something to eat in the kitchen.

[Malevicton]

While it is annoying to have people withdraw I dislike this change there has been times where I had to go to the bathroom and missed the window so now pretty screwed if oh say go to the bathroom, someone interrupted your playing time, or you went to make something to eat in the kitchen.

All three of those would have to happen to be a problem though, at which point the issue may have been you queuing at inopportune times. And even if that did happen, you just get a 30 min lockout, which isn't a huge issue.
As others have said in this thread, but should be reiterated a million more times, this will really only affect in-progress fishing.

[RayneBoemir]

Yea if you are dehydrated lol

[Cid_Grim]

Yea if you are dehydrated lol

If you have to use the bathroom that often, you should see a doctor rather than queue for a dungeon.

[LittleArrow]

...My presumption: You get two penalty-free withdrawls per day. Beyond that, each time you withdraw incurs a 30-minute penalty until the 24-hour lockout expires, at which point you get two more freebie withdrawls to spend.

Ok that makes sense. Thanks so much ^^

[Urtear]

The only people who should be offended by this new and WELCOME change, are those who used to consistently withdraw from duty, or those looking up Lalafell rule 34 while in queue and become too caught up to see their dungeon queue's rdy.

[CrystalRainbow]

It means you can no longer do other stuff while waiting for DF because if it pops up mid craft you get the choice of not being able to do DF for the day or losing your materials. Thanks.

When does a craft ever take longer then 45 seconds?

I was queue as my mnk for the last 2 week in low level has it is just 22. Well waiting in the 20+ min queues I would do my daily crafting quests. I often did 2 crafts then hit the duty finder with 5 + seconds left. So 45 seconds is enough to finish one craft.

[Giantbane]

The solution to this problem is not to to add an "In Progress Only" button. The solution is to make in-progress runs the priority when the "Join In Progress" checkbox is selected. The way it SHOULD work:

1. Player selects "Join In Progress" checkbox and signs up.
2. System checks for in-progress runs that require the player's current class. If it finds some, the player is added to the in-progress run that has waited for a member the longest.
3. If there are no in-progress runs that require the player's current class, it checks for new runs that require the player's current class. If it finds some, the player is added to the new run that has waited for a member the longest.
4. If there are no eligable runs, the player is added to the wait queue.

It is frankly astonishing to me that SE did not code it this way; for in-progress runs, the dungeon clock is ticking and empty slots should be filled as a top priority, well beyond new runs. Nevertheless, this does not warrant the addition of an "In Progress Only" button, it warrants a correction on how duty finder matching works.

I'm pretty sure it works like this, actually. Often when I get in progress runs, the queue pop is *instant*, there is literally no down time, I just hit queue and it pops. Even when I'm queuing as a tank, the matchmaker never pops that fast for a fresh run. If you're getting in a situation where you're trying to join a friend's group, it may be that the matchmaker has already offered that in progress run to another person in the queue, and won't offer it again until that person drops the queue. During that time, it will still pop fresh instances for those in the front of the line.

In progress only is a more elegant solution than this 3 withdraws in a day penalty because it gets all of the major offenders (in progress queue fishers) and puts them in their own matchmaking pool away from everyone else. And it doesn't really reward them as they will be stuck queuing against each other for probably longer than it would have taken for them to just join a fresh run.

Although, even with an in progress only option, I still think there should be a withdrawl penalty, but I think it should be a much shorter time span (1-3hrs) and for a shorter duration (10-15min).

[Amelia_Pond_Behemoth]

Does anyone know what happens if you withdraw in a fully premade party?