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  1. #81
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    Quote Originally Posted by BobbinT View Post
    Define "care".

    and yeah, you still haven't give that example of safe "things" you can do.
    I do not feel the need to define it. It is pretty obvious as to what it means in the context of what I said.

    If you need that also explaining, you must be trolling. Given your faces at the end of both sentences I am fairly certain that is the case.

    EDITED: Since the person responded to continues to act like a child I will clarify and doing so here because hit my new post limit earlier.

    Quote Originally Posted by BobbinT View Post
    Don't feel the need, or you just have no idea?

    When I said "define", that means I'm questioning that person if they truly understand the meaning of the word they use. And from your last post, it's apparent that you don't. And it's not just some literal meaning you can pull from a mere Merriam-Webster dictionary either.

    And it's really hilarious that you can't even dare to give out that example of yours.

    Just stop talking before making it worse. lol
    I am not making anything worse for myself, your merely showing your own ignorance or proving that you are indeed trolling/baiting by asking such questions despite being given the answer in the very first post you refer to and when in combination with using some common sense it is quite simple to understand.

    Firstly if a person truly cared about it they would not continue to purposefully choose to put at risk the chance to participate in the thing they proclaim to care so much about. Even cats, dogs, mice and rats learn from their mistakes, some people here apparently do not or do not care enough to correct their behavior and avoid missing out on what it is they supposedly care about within the context of this thread which is starting a raid or dungeon.

    On the second thing, refers to every other activity in the game that you might care less about having to ditch than compared to losing the materials and financial investment which occurs when ditching a HQ craft to enter a dungeon, trial or raid. I never once used the word 'safe' which was your initial attempt at trolling, misleading and misrepresenting my comment.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Purrfectstorm View Post
    I think this system will backfire but I'm willing to see what it's like. The reason I think this is a bad idea is it seems to be based on the following logic:

    Edit #2: Also, I'm on PS3 and it sometimes takes 40 seconds to load into a zone, so if I'm zoning when a queue pops and don't react fast enough I could miss it.
    i gotta say, that time feels like a massive exageration. the longest i have had to wait to zone is 15 seconds, and that is in a zone with tons of people warping in for an S rank or something. and yes, im talking ps3.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaze3434 View Post
    i gotta say, that time feels like a massive exageration. the longest i have had to wait to zone is 15 seconds, and that is in a zone with tons of people warping in for an S rank or something. and yes, im talking ps3.
    Actually it's not an exaggeration at all. Now I didn't say it is always like this but today I was on my way to a hunt and my partner was right beside me on PC and invited me to her party. I was like "C'mon, c'mon, load." I watched the Eorzean clock tick about 13-14 minutes which is 39-42 real life seconds. Granted, I'm sure there were a ton of people in the zone for the hunt but still, it's not like that is uncommon.

    Even if you doubt me about this, I think the rest of my points are valid.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Snugglebutt View Post
    Yes I agree an invite function would be good but until that time with the current system people who keep ditching groups and ditching queues should be punished, we have the punishment for those who ditch in progress via a 30 minute lockout and now we have a punishment for those who keep trolling, abusing or ditching the groups when the window pops up to start a run.
    Just to clarify, I have withdrawn before, if the in progress does not match the friend I am looking for. Or, the rare "Oh crap I forgot to uncheck that dungeon". But I have never gone into a dungeon, seen I got the wrong group, and left. I stuck it out. I agree that this is a step in the right direction, but it seems like it could turn out to be a poor Band-Aid slapped onto a poorly conceived and executed system.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Snugglebutt View Post
    I do not feel the need to define it. It is pretty obvious as to what it means in the context of what I said.

    If you need that also explaining, you must be trolling. Given your faces at the end of both sentences I am fairly certain that is the case.
    Don't feel the need, or you just have no idea?

    When I said "define", that means I'm questioning that person if they truly understand the meaning of the word they use. And from your last post, it's apparent that you don't. And it's not just some literal meaning you can pull from a mere Merriam-Webster dictionary either.

    And it's really hilarious that you can't even dare to give out that example of yours.

    Just stop talking before making it worse. lol
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    I have had the unfortunate circumstance of accidentally "withdrawing" from duty due to the timing of the window popping up and me interacting with an unrelated part of the game (was quickly backing out of a merchant). I do this 3 times in a day and I'm banned from DF til reset? That's way to harsh. They should also adjust the queue window from taking priority then so these instances can't happen. There's also the fact that as DPS we sometimes end up waiting over 30 minutes to queue, times where all I want to do is run a dungeon and nothing much else and will occasionally miss the queue. I feel that an hour lockout would suffice after 3 strikes. A possible whole day is way to harsh as all endgame content is locked behind DF.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Black_Wing View Post
    I have had the unfortunate circumstance of accidentally "withdrawing" from duty due to the timing of the window popping up and me interacting with an unrelated part of the game (was quickly backing out of a merchant). I do this 3 times in a day and I'm banned from DF til reset?
    The only way you would have withdrawn from the duty is if you press cancel/withdraw. Closing the Duty Ready window doesn't withdraw you from the duty, you just minimised it; if you press on the Duty Finder in your Duty Log, you can accept again. If, as you are saying, that you were only closing windows open, then by rights you shouldn't have been withdrawn.
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    I for one am glad for this after trying to run a friend through a dungeon the other day and having it pop at least seven times... only for someone to immediately withdraw. It took us almost half an hour from the initial pop to actually get into the dungeon, which is just ridiculous. There should absolutely be a penalty for that sort of thing.
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    Yup you all think this is just awesome right? right? Bad news folks you better get use to players now joining and going afk and you have to vote kick them or better yet they just go offline guess what vote kick time. What SE should have done is actually made the join in progress actually bring you to a duty thats in progress not a new duty.
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    lol cause 1-3+ hour queue windows on dps jobs don't happen right? (insert favored deity here) forbid i get bored of just sitting there waiting and switch my attention to something else for a few of the many minutes i've already sat there patiently waiting. i've seen this happen to several ppl, it's not just a me, me, me thing. what's most amusing about this i think though, is the ones who are white knighting this so hard are gonna be the first ones to whine about it when it starts happening to them cause they diverted their attention temporarily to something else (likely lolcats or some youtube idiocy).
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