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    Thank you SE!! (DF lockout)

    Players who select Withdraw from the Duty Ready confirmation window or allow the window to time out without making a selection three times or more in one day, will be temporarily prohibited from registering for duties via the Duty Finder.

    Source: patch notes
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    I agree with the rule but I think a player should be exempt if the wait time exceeds 30 minutes prior to the window popping up. Too much to expect all players to be fully paying attention if a wait time exceeds 30 minutes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MasamuneBranford View Post
    I agree with the rule but I think a player should be exempt if the wait time exceeds 30 minutes prior to the window popping up. Too much to expect all players to be fully paying attention if a wait time exceeds 30 minutes.
    If you do this 3 times in ONE DAY... it's not merely a case of not paying attention, it's a case of not being interested enough to try.

    I for one, welcome this change.
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    People keep forgetting they can still play the game, they just have to use the PF. They are only locked from abusing the DF with withdrawals.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NyarukoW View Post
    People keep forgetting they can still play the game, they just have to use the PF. They are only locked from abusing the DF with withdrawals.
    Wouden't this work similarly to those that quit a duty in progress, a ban from queuing for duties even if you already formed a party of 4/8?
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    Like what Morningstar said above (she beat me to it)
    It should be noted that even right now if you get the 30min DF lockout for leaving a group, you can not even enter a PF group until the DF timer resets. I would assume this "3-strikes-your-out" system will work the same.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lemuria View Post
    If you do this 3 times in ONE DAY... it's not merely a case of not paying attention, it's a case of not being interested enough to try.

    I for one, welcome this change.
    I'd tend to agree. I was just thinking of different scenarios on the weekend where things might be busy around my house where the phone might ring, my wife might need me, baby might wake up, etc. I agree it's my own fault if I mess it up three times, but I could easily see it happening twice and then being on edge the entire day making sure I don't miss the alert (which is not how a game should be). I just think it can hurt players who have busy lives. You may disagree and that's fine. This is very different than actually joining a game and then quitting - I definitely think those people should be punished. But if i merely miss the pop-up window - that's a bit harsh.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MasamuneBranford View Post
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    It may seem harsh but its to stop people fishing for in-progress dungeons because THAT is annoying. I for one never leave my desk when Im queued. And if I have to leave it, I will usually withdraw, purely because I dont like being "that guy" who holds up everyone else. If the queue is long (ie. in excess of 30m) and I need to walk away from my desk for a minute, I turn up the volume so I can hear it if it pops. I very much welcome this change since I for one hate being trolled by players who "fish"
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    Last edited by Vespar; 10-25-2014 at 06:54 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vespar View Post
    It may seem harsh but its to stop people fishing for in-progress dungeons because THAT is annoying. I for one never leave my desk when Im queued. And if I have to leave it, I will usually withdraw, purely because I dont like being "that guy" who holds up everyone else. If the queue is long (ie. in excess of 30m) and I need to walk away from my desk for a minute, I turn up the volume so I can hear it if it pops. I very much welcome this change since I for one hate being trolled by players who "fish"
    To prevent people from fishing for in progress, 3 times per hour would have been enough of a restriction, 3 times per day seems harsh, especially considering that the FFXIV icon doesn't even flash in the task bar if you're alt tabbed and, for example, reading the forum to pass some queue-waiting-time. If they implement something to actually notify me when a queue is finally found if I've the game minimized, I'll welcome this change with open arms.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Riepah View Post
    To prevent people from fishing for in progress, 3 times per hour would have been enough of a restriction, 3 times per day seems harsh, especially considering that the FFXIV icon doesn't even flash in the task bar if you're alt tabbed and, for example, reading the forum to pass some queue-waiting-time. If they implement something to actually notify me when a queue is finally found if I've the game minimized, I'll welcome this change with open arms.
    You don't need it to flash on a tab. Go into your sound settings in FFXIV and change it so that Sound plays while minimized. I'm almost always browsing the web while Queue'd. I just do this, and I never miss the queue.
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