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    Player MilesSaintboroguh's Avatar
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    Miles Saintborough
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    Balmung
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    White Mage Lv 100
    One or two withdraws from different people is understandable, but when you have 10+ people (or are they the same guy?) withdrawing one after the other in rapid succession, the rest of the party is not going to care about that one person's "emergencies" since they, once again, now have to sit through the queue again. That's why people are upset over withdraw spam.
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    Bobbin Threadbare
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    Masamune
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    Just recently got this revelation from other discussions. Apparently majority of these DF troll came from either tank or healer jobs. If this were true, then it'll be even more weirder that dps could possibly troll and waste their long wait just for that. On the other hand, tank & healer usually has quickest DF commences, thus the possibilities of trolling come from their side. I do have this sort of experience myself, since I am main-ed dps jobs.

    I mean, how long or often did you get trolled as tank or healers compared with dps?

    If this were true, then majority of those reasons being dps can't commence unintended for being in middle of something are might be just minority compared to these so-called trolls.
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    Honestly its a game do you or some players need hand holding to this extreme? Seriously why are you so butt hurt over players withdrawing or not hitting commence that you have to cry to the dev's about it. This is not really an issue as while you are waiting you can do other things, if you dont have time to wait than maybe just maybe those players need to play when they have more time and that goes for both sides as well.

    Regardless of the penalty players will continue to do so as before because in the end if all they want is to join an in progress run than make that work properly. If it has any effect at all it would be that players just wont Q up and thats less players in the Q and wait times could get even longer.

    Heres another idea, a player decides that they are done running dungeons for the day so than what do they do they sit there and just Q and withdraw Q again and again regardless of the penalty because in the end the penalty means nothing to those players.

    Bottom line is simple stop dictating how other players need or should play and fix the in progress feature or take it out completely.
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    Last edited by maxthunder1; 10-28-2014 at 03:25 PM.

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    Futo Mononobe
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    I keep seeing people talk about being in fates or having aggro and not being able to accept the queue, yet I've never had an issue accepting even while fighting. I guess if you have to change gear it's an issue, but if you're in the right job then it doesn't matter.
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    Player Alukah's Avatar
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    Alukah Bast
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    Goldsmith Lv 90
    Okay, I don't know if this part was in the prelim patch notes or if this was stated already in this thread, but...

    Players who select Withdraw from the Duty Ready confirmation window or allow the window to time out without making a selection three times or more in one day, will be temporarily prohibited from registering for duties via the Duty Finder.
    Do you know what "or more" means? That it will be possible to withdraw more than three times, but hey they also said "temporarily prohibited", connect the dots and what do you get? After the third withdraw you will have a short lockout, after the short lockout you still can withdraw and still get locked out.

    To dumb it down a bit more, you have 3 withdraws with no penalty, after that every withdraw will have a penalty until the counter resets and then you will have three free withdraws again, this penalty will probably be just a few minutes, less than the penalty for joining and leaving (otherwise people would exploit that penalty).

    I personally expect something like 5 minutes, any higher than 5 and people will start entering instances and asking to be vote kicked.
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    [QUOTE=Alukah;2540574] snip

    As I have said before this will stop no player that wants to troll or find an in progress run. They waste so much time looking for an in progress whats and extra 5 mins to 1 hour wait to get what they want.
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    Ali Lifesaver
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    Why do people still think its a 24 hr lockout?

    3 minutes to commence? Lol what
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    Violet Baudelaire
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    I just trolled DF for science. It's a 30 minute lockout.
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    Little Sprinkles
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    Warrior Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Amelia_Pond_Behemoth View Post
    I just trolled DF for science. It's a 30 minute lockout.
    Well that's a relief to hear. So is it a 30minute lockout everytime you leave the duty? I don't understand how the 24hr lockout works with that.
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    M'irau Rhya
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    Odin
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    Quote Originally Posted by Amelia_Pond_Behemoth View Post
    I just trolled DF for science. It's a 30 minute lockout.
    That sounds great, now all we need is a penalty on votekicked and we are on a way to a better dungeon experience.
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