Petition: Bring back mob AI!

[Bayohne]

Discussed this with monster wrangler Matsui. Firstly, as I'm sure you're all aware, the reason that aldgoats and other monsters stopped coming closer was due to the fact that they would be tagged by player AoEs (and all the frustration that brought with it); we don't have plans to bring that aspect back. However, we would like to add more liveliness to monsters as you have been suggesting.

[Dreadnought]

Discussed this with monster wrangler Matsui. Firstly, as I'm sure you're all aware, the reason that aldgoats and other monsters stopped coming closer was due to the fact that they would be tagged by player AoEs (and all the frustration that brought with it); we don't have plans to bring that aspect back. However, we would like to add more liveliness to monsters as you have been suggesting.

the vast majority dont want curious monsters back. the vast majority want all of the other AI back, there is a difference.

[Alhanelem]

the vast majority dont want curious monsters back. the vast majority want all of the other AI back, there is a difference.

What other AI was there?

I wouldn't mind the monsters that follow you around if they stood far enough back that they wouldnt get hit by AoE.

Aggro is in every game, and it's still in this one, so I'm not sure what people are talking about there.

[Jynx]

What other AI was there?

I wouldn't mind the monsters that follow you around if they stood far enough back that they wouldnt get hit by AoE.

Aggro is in every game, and it's still in this one, so I'm not sure what people are talking about there.

Feel free to read the OP to see what kinds of AI quirks many mobs have and what few were removed for no real reason. We still have no idea why efts instantly agro to sound no instead of searching for you, or why some monsters such as red crabs no longer try to warn you away before attacking.

[Fensfield]

Discussed this with monster wrangler Matsui. However, we would like to add more liveliness to monsters as you have been suggesting.

Hurrah, finally a reply! Thank you.

Firstly, as I'm sure you're all aware, the reason that aldgoats and other monsters stopped coming closer was due to the fact that they would be tagged by player AoEs (and all the frustration that brought with it); we don't have plans to bring that aspect back.

But, really? Even with the modifications to AoE functionality supposedly being considered by the developers, or the ideas about not having them follow quite so closely or flee under certain circumstances? The reason for its removal is clear enough, but is just leaving it out really the only, and best option?

However, we would like to add more liveliness to monsters as you have been suggesting.

What about the other removed behaviors that the vast majority do seem to want to see returned, such as the conditional aggression on Efts, and enemies that 'sensed our presence before attacking' and the like?

And.. I don't suppose by some miracle you might be able to tell us at what point, or after what set of planned fixes and changes, we might see these 'liveliness additions', can you?

[Jennestia]

Hurrah, finally a reply! Thank you.



But, really? Even with the modifications to AoE functionality supposedly being considered by the developers, or the ideas about not having them follow quite so closely or flee under certain circumstances? The reason for its removal is clear enough, but is just leaving it out really the only, and best option?



What about the other removed behaviors that the vast majority do seem to want to see returned, such as the conditional aggression on Efts, and enemies that 'sensed our presence before attacking' and the like?

And.. I don't suppose by some miracle you might be able to tell us at what point, or after what set of planned fixes and changes, we might see these 'liveliness additions', can you?

As they say, don't shoot the messenger -- Blame those who continually complain about everything for absolutely no reason. "Oh noes my AoE will hit a goat! Remove their curious nature SE!" Fixes come when they come, you can't plan it, because then if a delay happens, you have disgruntled people, hence why more and more companies (even outside of gaming) are now on a "when it's finished" mantra.

[Fensfield]

As they say, don't shoot the messenger -- Blame those who continually complain about everything for absolutely no reason. "Oh noes my AoE will hit a goat! Remove their curious nature SE!" Fixes come when they come, you can't plan it, because then if a delay happens, you have disgruntled people, hence why more and more companies (even outside of gaming) are now on a "when it's finished" mantra.

I know, I know.. thus the lack of attack or so. I really was just making inquiries. I don't really expect a proper reply, it's a bit beyond a community rep's remit I fear - but it can't help asking, right? Besides, it'd be nice to see specific address for our other concerns, too; like the other remove behavior traits, for instance.

[Calina]

As they say, don't shoot the messenger -- Blame those who continually complain about everything for absolutely no reason. "Oh noes my AoE will hit a goat! Remove their curious nature SE!" Fixes come when they come, you can't plan it, because then if a delay happens, you have disgruntled people, hence why more and more companies (even outside of gaming) are now on a "when it's finished" mantra.

personally I just found it fucking annoying!! having bloody mob of goats and crap following you around while your trying to do a leve or whatever...

[Cairdeas]

Discussed this with monster wrangler Matsui. Firstly, as I'm sure you're all aware, the reason that aldgoats and other monsters stopped coming closer was due to the fact that they would be tagged by player AoEs (and all the frustration that brought with it); we don't have plans to bring that aspect back. However, we would like to add more liveliness to monsters as you have been suggesting.

I think that could be fixed by making it so curious monsters run away if a character pulls their weapon out or already has their weapon out.

[Sav]

Discussed this with monster wrangler Matsui. Firstly, as I'm sure you're all aware, the reason that aldgoats and other monsters stopped coming closer was due to the fact that they would be tagged by player AoEs (and all the frustration that brought with it); we don't have plans to bring that aspect back. However, we would like to add more liveliness to monsters as you have been suggesting.

Matsui is a man of many hats...and names.