Ninja Single Target DPS Rotation - Early Attempts

[SeraviEdalborez]

So look at greased lightning it does infact state "Damage dealt and attack speed are increased". We know this in turn does change your GCD so Huton should therefor follow suit and give you a 2.1 second GCD.

This means with huton up you could get 4 - 5 attacks out of the Trick Attack buff. Which then begs the question, is Suiton --> Trick Attack --> Kasatsu --> Raiton actually wasting the trick attack buff? Would going from trick attack to aoelian edge combo actually put out more dps?

You would use Kassatsu-Raiton in this case because you can't get presumably get 6 (Mutilate, Spin>Fang, Spin>Gust>Aeol) moves out in Trick duration. If you have to end at Gust you may as well shove in Raiton.

[JakzChurchill]

Okay being on the game since launch I really should of known dots make use of the damage increase. So yeah your right, just gonna throw the number down though to see how much better it is. These are all following the use of Suiton --> Trick Attack.

Okay time for some maths, Skill : potency [10%].

Melee Combo

--> Mutilate : 360 [396] - 2s -> Spinning Edge : 150 [165] - 4s -> Shadow Fang : 240 [264] - 6s -> Spinning Edge : 150 [165] - 8s - Gust Slash : 200 [220] - 10s -

1210, 110 additional potency.

Ninjitsu Combo

--> Mutilate : 360 [396] - 2s -> Kasatsu - Raiton (2 - 3 second to set up / cast with Kas no cooldown) : 360! [396!] - 5s -> Spinning Edge : 150 [165] - 7s -> Shadow Fang : 240 [264] - 9s -

4 Abilites were used here, although a 5th (spinning edge, assasinate, mug) may be able to be added depending on your ninjitsu speed.

1182![4] or 1345 (Spin), 1336 (Mug), 1402 (assasinate [if its available]), 111 [126] [125] [131] Additional potency.

safe Below 20% combo.

Mutilate : 360 [396] - 2s -> Spinning Edge : 150 [165] - 4s -> Gust Slash : 200 [220] - 6s -> Aeoilian Edge : 320 [352] - 8s - Assasinate : 200 [220] - 9s -

1353 Potency, 123 additional potency.

Conclusion

Until we know the exact time it takes to accurately perform Kas --> Raiton (Kraiton) we can't be sure on the best burst potency, although there is at least a safe option that cannot fail.

In the anniversary video it takes them 3 seconds to perform Kraiton, but they do appear to add in a large gap that by all accounts could be removed.

Either way 1350 potency over 10 seconds isn't too bad, this isn't including the 400 done before hand. (Thinking about Odin in 2.5, that last dps check below 20% is going to make Ninjas a must have for most parties.)

[Rak_Boy]

will visit this again when i hit 50 nin ... see you again

[Leonus]

These initial rotations look good. Also interested in how ninja would fair in speed runs.

Nin is shaping out to be a beast ( if the weapon damage isn't low like some people think it might be). just cross your fingers that half the gaming population doesn't main nin until 3.0 comes out.

[Apl_Juice]

So the mudra priority seems to be Suiton (if SATA is up) > Raiton (if Kassatsu is up) > Huton? Or does an unbuffed Raiton beat out Huton? What's the CD of Ninjutsu and Trick Attack for that matter?

[JakzChurchill]

So the mudra priority seems to be Suiton (if SATA is up) > Raiton (if Kassatsu is up) > Huton? Or does an unbuffed Raiton beat out Huton? What's the CD of Ninjutsu and Trick Attack for that matter?

I would say Huton should be up constantly, as mentioned by MrHappy on his stream last night if you can cast Huton before the fight starts then it's amazing, if not you'll use it after the first TA, or as your first ability if you don't want to mess about with Hide -> Trick Attack.

So Huton --> Suiton if TA is up --> Raiton.

I'll be saving Kassutsu for Trick Attack combo aswell (Sui - TA - Kas - Rai)

[Leonus]

I would say Huton should be up constantly, as mentioned by MrHappy on his stream last night if you can cast Huton before the fight starts then it's amazing, if not you'll use it after the first TA, or as your first ability if you don't want to mess about with Hide -> Trick Attack.

So Huton --> Suiton if TA is up --> Raiton.

I'll be saving Kassutsu for Trick Attack combo aswell (Sui - TA - Kas - Rai)

Exactly this. Huron should be priority #1 if you don't have jus satsuma up to get soon after doing a nin cast for TA or R a it on if TA is down.

So without Kusatsu its:

Huton > Suiton + TA > raiton. For ST dps. This is a good established guideline.

What about aoe rotation?

[SeraviEdalborez]

What about aoe rotation?

Doesn't really have much of one. Only GCD AoE is lol100pot unless it's boosted by a trait.

Doton will be the better AoE jutsu to use (240pot floor dot over 24 seconds) unless you have Kassatsu, in which case you can toss out Katon too (180pot) though if it's anything like Life Surge you will only auto-crit one target.

[ShaolinMike]

Doesn't really have much of one. Only GCD AoE is lol100pot unless it's boosted by a trait.

Doton will be the better AoE jutsu to use (240pot floor dot over 24 seconds) unless you have Kassatsu, in which case you can toss out Katon too (180pot) though if it's anything like Life Surge you will only auto-crit one target.

Yeah so I probably won't completely abandon my BLM/SMN. AoE looks to be fairly nonexistent. I guess that's part of the balancing act.

[Apl_Juice]

Oh, it didn't even occur to me that you could perform mudras outside of battle, durr.

Okay, so Huton always on, then. That brings up another question on whether Skill Speed becomes viable, since 15% is equivalent to GL3, correct?

Aside from that, saving Kassatsu for Trick Attack seems great if their CDs line up, but is it optimal if they aren't?