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  1. #41
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    So the mudra priority seems to be Suiton (if SATA is up) > Raiton (if Kassatsu is up) > Huton? Or does an unbuffed Raiton beat out Huton? What's the CD of Ninjutsu and Trick Attack for that matter?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Apl_Juice View Post
    So the mudra priority seems to be Suiton (if SATA is up) > Raiton (if Kassatsu is up) > Huton? Or does an unbuffed Raiton beat out Huton? What's the CD of Ninjutsu and Trick Attack for that matter?
    I would say Huton should be up constantly, as mentioned by MrHappy on his stream last night if you can cast Huton before the fight starts then it's amazing, if not you'll use it after the first TA, or as your first ability if you don't want to mess about with Hide -> Trick Attack.

    So Huton --> Suiton if TA is up --> Raiton.

    I'll be saving Kassutsu for Trick Attack combo aswell (Sui - TA - Kas - Rai)
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  3. #43
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    Quote Originally Posted by JakzChurchill View Post
    I would say Huton should be up constantly, as mentioned by MrHappy on his stream last night if you can cast Huton before the fight starts then it's amazing, if not you'll use it after the first TA, or as your first ability if you don't want to mess about with Hide -> Trick Attack.

    So Huton --> Suiton if TA is up --> Raiton.

    I'll be saving Kassutsu for Trick Attack combo aswell (Sui - TA - Kas - Rai)
    Exactly this. Huron should be priority #1 if you don't have jus satsuma up to get soon after doing a nin cast for TA or R a it on if TA is down.

    So without Kusatsu its:

    Huton > Suiton + TA > raiton. For ST dps. This is a good established guideline.

    What about aoe rotation?
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    Last edited by Leonus; 10-26-2014 at 01:02 AM.

  4. #44
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    Oh, it didn't even occur to me that you could perform mudras outside of battle, durr.

    Okay, so Huton always on, then. That brings up another question on whether Skill Speed becomes viable, since 15% is equivalent to GL3, correct?

    Aside from that, saving Kassatsu for Trick Attack seems great if their CDs line up, but is it optimal if they aren't?
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  5. #45
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    I believe Kassutsu will have a longer recast than TA. TA is looking about a minute CD, Kassutsu seems about 2 - 3 minutes (very rough estimate). So you could by all means get kassutsu every other TA. If they are both on multiples of minutes they should line up almost perfectly that way.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Apl_Juice View Post
    Oh, it didn't even occur to me that you could perform mudras outside of battle, durr.

    Okay, so Huton always on, then. That brings up another question on whether Skill Speed becomes viable, since 15% is equivalent to GL3, correct?

    Aside from that, saving Kassatsu for Trick Attack seems great if their CDs line up, but is it optimal if they aren't?
    GL2 not 3.
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  7. #47
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    Snap Punch says a stack gets 5%, and Huton says 15%
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    Thought GL3 was 15% att speed increase and 27% damage increase.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Leonus View Post
    What about aoe rotation?
    Doesn't really have much of one. Only GCD AoE is lol100pot unless it's boosted by a trait.

    Doton will be the better AoE jutsu to use (240pot floor dot over 24 seconds) unless you have Kassatsu, in which case you can toss out Katon too (180pot) though if it's anything like Life Surge you will only auto-crit one target.
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    Last edited by SeraviEdalborez; 10-26-2014 at 02:38 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SeraviEdalborez View Post
    Doesn't really have much of one. Only GCD AoE is lol100pot unless it's boosted by a trait.

    Doton will be the better AoE jutsu to use (240pot floor dot over 24 seconds) unless you have Kassatsu, in which case you can toss out Katon too (180pot) though if it's anything like Life Surge you will only auto-crit one target.
    Yeah so I probably won't completely abandon my BLM/SMN. AoE looks to be fairly nonexistent. I guess that's part of the balancing act.
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