How to level DOH

[theimmortalbum]

Hi guys,

I'm almost done with my Atma and have decided I want to SB my gear for Novus materia. I'm WHM, and was told that GSM was the cheapest (and since they make accessories, a good choice) to level over WVR.

My FC recommended I level MIN to 15 and then head down into GSM. My question is.. how on earth do I actually level a DOH? I've looked at guides, but I can't seem to find anything comprehensive. Triple leves seem to be a consensus, so is that the way to go? Do I need to be aiming for HQ for leves?

Also, are there rotations for low level stuff? I've seen a lot of the 2* and 3* rotations, but.. since my DOH are all level 0.. I'm nowhere near that.

Thanks!

[monochromicorn]

triple turn in leves are the way to go, if you can support that. i did triple turn ins all through ALC and lv 35 WVR, and ran out of gil. they take a little more time, but are very worth it. if you can find someone, and pay them a little and provide the mats, and have them HQ for you, you could get to 50 in a matter of days with any craft. that being said, the cheapest way to do it would be to level you gathering classes so you can gather the mats and not have to pay rediculous sums for all of them(like me).

[theimmortalbum]

triple turn in leves are the way to go, if you can support that. i did triple turn ins all through ALC and lv 35 WVR, and ran out of gil. they take a little more time, but are very worth it. if you can find someone, and pay them a little and provide the mats, and have them HQ for you, you could get to 50 in a matter of days with any craft. that being said, the cheapest way to do it would be to level you gathering classes so you can gather the mats and not have to pay rediculous sums for all of them(like me).

So then, it's worth it to level up DOL with DOH as well? If I'm focusing GSM first (only?), I know I'll need MIN - I should keep MIN leveled ahead of GSM then?

[PenelopeWinn]

So then, it's worth it to level up DOL with DOH as well? If I'm focusing GSM first (only?), I know I'll need MIN - I should keep MIN leveled ahead of GSM then?

Yes gathering your own stuff is very worth it.

As for what leves to do, do NOT do triples, the xp has been changed and imo the courier leves are far superior now. id get to about 25 through grinding with mats from guild supplier then start leves. that's how i finished half of mine after the changes.

[monochromicorn]

Yes gathering your own stuff is very worth it.

As for what leves to do, do NOT do triples, the xp has been changed and imo the courier leves are far superior now. id get to about 25 through grinding with mats from guild supplier then start leves. that's how i finished half of mine after the changes.

have they really changed? i havent crafted for at least a month, except for 3 leves where i went to whitebrim to give someone pants. that was 83k for NQ, i thought that was an insane amount, so if they have changed the exp rewards, then definitely do the courier leves and gather your own stuff.

also, i would level WVR if you want to. i regret doing ALC first because crafting gear was so expensive on jenova.

[Giantbane]

So then, it's worth it to level up DOL with DOH as well? If I'm focusing GSM first (only?), I know I'll need MIN - I should keep MIN leveled ahead of GSM then?

First thing should be to get to 15 in every DoH class so you have a bunch of basic cross class skills to work with (can skip armorer if you like).

Should not need to use any leves to get to 15, just sit in the guild and craft stuff using only materials sold by the guild (for cheap) and either sell the results back to the guild, sell it on the market (if profitable enough), or desynthesize it if it's one of the desynth classes you want to level.

And don't bother leveling the DoL class (like mining) to go with it unless you really want that leveled too. That takes forever, especially if you're not using leves (assuming you want to save your leves to level your DoH class).

[monochromicorn]

First thing should be to get to 15 in every DoH class so you have a bunch of basic cross class skills to work with (can skip armorer if you like).

Should not need to use any leves to get to 15, just sit in the guild and craft stuff using only materials sold by the guild (for cheap) and either sell the results back to the guild, sell it on the market (if profitable enough), or desynthesize it if it's one of the desynth classes you want to level.

And don't bother leveling the DoM class (like mining) to go with it unless you really want that leveled too. That takes forever, especially if you're not using leves (assuming you want to save your leves to level your DoH class).

hes wrong only in saying that you shouldnt level the DoL classes. buying those mats cn get very expensive, especially when you have to start paying 500 or more for a mat with a stack of 20-30, and you only need 10. thats an extra 5-10k gil for some intermediate mats. wait till you have to buy some of the mats for lv 45+ crafting recipes.

edit: DoM is disciple of magic, so not really sure if you should trust a guy giving advice if he doesnt know the difference between disciple of magic and disciple of land

[Giantbane]

hes wrong only in saying that you shouldnt level the DoL classes. buying those mats cn get very expensive, especially when you have to start paying 500 or more for a mat with a stack of 20-30, and you only need 10. thats an extra 5-10k gil for some intermediate mats. wait till you have to buy some of the mats for lv 45+ crafting recipes.

edit: DoM is disciple of magic, so not really sure if you should trust a guy giving advice if he doesnt know the difference between disciple of magic and disciple of land

oh, no, there's a typo ... (there I fixed my original post)

it's time vs. money ... you will spend a lot of time leveling your mining class, particularly if you have to split leve allowances between the DoH and the DoL class. I didn't bother leveling any gathering classes until after I had all 8 DoH classes leveled. And yet, by always choosing the most cost effective leve quests (cheapest mats vs. highest return), I ended up with more $$ and more shards than I started with on each and every craft.

Even then, I only chose to level my miner so I could make my retainer a miner. I never do any mining myself and $$ (or making $$ from crafting) has never been an issue for me. DoH gathering is nice if you want to gather your own stuff, but it's not at all necessary if you'd prefer not to do that sort of thing.

also, i would level WVR if you want to. i regret doing ALC first because crafting gear was so expensive on jenova.

This is good advice. In addition to crafting your own DoH gear, if you level WVR to 50, CS2 is an excellent cross class skill that is both useful while leveling and in crafting anything at all (like jewelry to spiritbind, HQ items spiritbind faster). To this end, if you want to grab all the basic skills that you'll want for crafting at 50, consider doing Culnarian to 37 (Steady Hands 2) and Carpenter to 50 (Byregot's Blessing) before your goldsmith. Both of those skills are very, very good for crafting so you'll want them. And if you get them before leveling your goldsmith (along with CS2 from weaver), it will make leveling your goldsmith much easier (easier to HQ items for more XP & $$ when you turn the skill in).

But that's only if you're willing to level 1-3 other classes first before getting back to your goldsmith.


Also, here is a list of every leve turn in for every DoL/DoH class (i *think* they're all up to date):
http://www.bluegartr.com/threads/118...Material-Tiers

very useful to plan which leves you want to do (whether you value the ones that give you the most XP or whether you value the ones that use the cheapest materials vs. gives back the most $$).

[monochromicorn]

one of the things that can be done is leveling a sub-class thats dps. you can use those wait times for gathering. you get quite a bit of gil. i sold a full stack of hazelnuts for almost 80k and around 20 HQ for about 20k. its easy money, and youre already having to wait. doingf that, you still level pretty fast until the 30s, at which point i started doing leves

[Yumi_umi]

Tou technically can go from level 1 - 50 in a day or 2 with only 100-150k gil.
Just make sure you have enough leves as after level 10 you start to get less exp from crafting new things soooooo.
Lvl 1-10 = craft stuff and get 1st time exp. Buy Ur matts from the supply NPC.
Lvl 10-50 = do SINGLE turn in leves. You get like 50-60% exp on a the bar so you just need to do 2 HQ single item turn in leves to level up.
Knowing this you need 10 leves per 5 levels. So u need roughly
5 levels = 10 leves
10 x 8 sets of level 5 = 80 leves!
Of course u can also speed it up by doing the GC mission HQ turn in. It usually nets you 50-70% i believe.
Triple turn ins are a waste of time, gil, shards and mats.
Just spam single leves and profit.