The Culling of the Weak

[Millen1]

You can buy the best gear but without a solid rotation you are toast. The 3 star rotation I use can turn nq mats into hq items about 70% of the time. My stats are craft 410, control 390 and CP 395 with food. The 3 star rotation has luck on the quality side. It appears that the 4 star will have luck on both the quality and progress side. I did give a shot at the 3 star listed for hq. The rotation is grizzly and I did come in decently on quality but having said that you need perfect luck with a lot of 50% and 80% skills. We will see what it looks like in a day with new gear stats. I am hoping that the main item from oak knots can be bought. To recover the gil on selling i110 gear, it would help to get it out the door with in the first 2 weeks. The 2.2 patch was not too hard to get the i90 gear HQ and out the door.

[chidarake]

why would anyone buy crafted 110 gear,??

ok meldable... except material is so cost prohibitive now that nearly no one an be bothered to meld even i90 never mind 110.

plus on top of it st is farmable and sol gear will be easy to get so getting to 110 in any class wont be hard. plus the new gear from poetics will be in all likelihood 110 upgradable to 120.

this just adds up to an awful lot of time for new crafting gear that will be hard to get or easy if you don't mind potentially buying it. although to me I would have to have my own name attached to my crafting gear.

I will look as this new step in crafting and gradually work towards it, probs faster than most but seriously this is looking like a crazy grind and getting all those fieldrafts for supras was bad enough, and although there will be gil to be made I don't think it will be as much as we would probs like unless the new gear is some exceptionally nice looking glam.

[Ooshima]

why would anyone buy crafted 110 gear,??

tell that to hardcore raiders.

[Millen1]

You could be right. i90 crafted did sell ok even though players could get i100 st and i100/i110 soldiery. I never really liked the Soldiery gear as a healer and haven't gone into coil very far. I still have a few nicely melded i90 items around that I switch out as I like. So the new crafted gear interests me. It may interest others and I am looking at keeping the cost down as best as possible. I do hope it is not overly gated with the oak knots or the 4 star crafting will be a waste of time unless it is a hobby on the side.

As for the new gear, my guess is i120 upgraded to i130. Same as the weathered geared went over the last 6 months.

In the end, I will do the 4 star one way or another. It is my challenge as it comes out. Some like ex or coil. I have always been more of a crafter and from time to time find myself doing other.

[Pacifyer]

Most of hardcore raiders will need to maximize their potential in raids for the first several weeks as you will be heavily gated by poetry weekly cap.
New i110 gear can be melded to become more than BiS for every slot so there is a heavy struggle for crafters to be able to provide those asap from the patch date as later on raiders will most probably get some coil gear + poetry so they won't actually need crafted gear that much. So panic and chaos are guaranteed for the first week for crafters. I bet 4 star items will cost like 2 mils per piece if they are really making it to the MB that fast.

[Ooshima]

Most of hardcore raiders will need to maximize their potential in raids for the first several weeks as you will be heavily gated by poetry weekly cap.
New i110 gear can be melded to become more than BiS for every slot so there is a heavy struggle for crafters to be able to provide those asap from the patch date as later on raiders will most probably get some coil gear + poetry so they won't actually need crafted gear that much. So panic and chaos are guaranteed for the first week for crafters. I bet 4 star items will cost like 2 mils per piece if they are really making it to the MB that fast.

Yeap about that price for non legacy servers. Day 1 prices during 2.2 was around 5-8mil a piece, although volume wasn't huge at all.

[JonBigwood]

It seems to me that they want crafters to choose a specialty craft or a few. In desynth you have to choose, you can't have all at the top. Now with the new gear, master recipes, etc. getting one class, and later some other to the top craft level may be attainable, but all crafters is a huge work and most people won't be able to do it mid term.

It sort of happens with the relic quest too, one class to the top, OK, doable with a lot of time. More classes is too much time, but if you wait some months it gets easier.

I wonder if with the crafters it will happen like with the battle classes that catching up is favoured for new players so that they can catch up, except the last tier that needs a huge grind.
A bit unrelated, crafting seems to be an apart chapter. The best way to make money is crafting, but, except housing (and materia for Novus), money is used mainly for leveling crafters, or obtaining or melding the craft gear which will allow you to gain more gil, that you will use probably in getting better crafting gear, to make more gil, to be able to obtain better crafting gear, in an endless spiral.

You don't need to have had top geared crafters to have earned enough money to have bought a house without much effort in last patch (availabilty is other question), and then gil accumulates unless you spend it on gearing and melding the crafters (desynth, demimateria too.) Note: my main is PLD so I haven't spent a fortune in materia for the Novus weapon, other classes may have such a different situation. But once done the Novus, most gil goes to the crafters, who provide gil to be spent on themselves mainly. A completion goal really.

[NationOfZealots]

rex1976, please use Edit Post, the button is on the right side of screen left of the Reply button.

When I saw the Ehcatl Sealant hoohah, I just took it the same way Tomes up until now have effectively gated progression, and that is fine, I do not want to participate in a rush anyway.

[Rath]

SCoB was gated by gear, this got bypassed by il90 melded gear early on. The same will happen IF people are able to turn out il110 HQ before people start getting il120 from FCoB and Poetic tomes via hunts. Those ready to buy oaknot items and get their 4 star going right away should make as much gil as those first selling the il90 did, and I made millions myself on it a couple weeks after other crafters had already been selling for 2-10 times as much.

[StouterTaru]

Melded HQ 110 will definitely be better than 120 in most cases, so it will be very valuable for the first couple months.

I'm glad I have ~150 oaknots saved up, 2 characters that can farm up 6 a day each, and 2 more characters a couple weeks away from farming more.