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  1. #81
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    Miya_Carbuncle's Avatar
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    Miya Carbuncle
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    Midgardsormr
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    Conjurer Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by MilesSaintboroguh View Post
    No, the rule applies to everyone. No one is a special case. If you really have to step offline to do something, then withdraw and rejoin when you come back. I don't care what class you play as, I want you ready with the rest of the group.
    Seriously? That's being selfish on your part. "Welp, I need to use the bathroom really quick, better restart my hour long queue!" I never minded waiting for the occasional DPS withdraw as a tank or healer, and it's definitely worse for the DPS to wait for another queue than it is for a tank or healer to simply wait for other DPS.
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  2. #82
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    Yhoiryo's Avatar
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    Snowy Dreams
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    Gilgamesh
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    Paladin Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Miya_Carbuncle View Post
    Seriously? That's being selfish on your part. "Welp, I need to use the bathroom really quick, better restart my hour long queue!" I never minded waiting for the occasional DPS withdraw as a tank or healer, and it's definitely worse for the DPS to wait for another queue than it is for a tank or healer to simply wait for other DPS.
    I don't think so at all, you're queuing up for something which is essentially saying "I'm ready, lets do this." Sure you have to wait if your a DPS generally but if you know somethings going to come up than withdraw before the notice pops up and or once your in your dungeon let your party know that "Hey I need to go to the restroom or can I grab a snack real quick." and generally I'd think most people would be ok to this having to wait 2-4 minutes more than having someone drop out and letting DF take another 10-20 minutes finding a rep.
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  3. #83
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    Taliph's Avatar
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    Taliph Stillwood
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    Excalibur
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    Conjurer Lv 50
    I have never missed a queue due to urination, defication on the other hand...
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  4. #84
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    Kali Coh
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    Adamantoise
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    Monk Lv 70
    I don't mind the being locked out for the rest of the day, but 3 strikes does feel a little too... small, depending on counts towards it. Although as long as premade parties are exempted I think it'll be fine.

    Given the amount of times I've had to withdraw from a DF because of some excuse or another, be it a fate finally spawning that I need or whatever, it's not something that comes up often. And I think I've only missed a window a grand total of once due to being afk too.
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  5. #85
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    Adol Giantbane
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    Ultros
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    Dark Knight Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by NyarukoW View Post
    No you won't. Run away from the monster and you will be able to switch class in less than 30 seconds. Abandon your craft. You are taking for granted the time of other players. Beside you got 45 seconds to wrap up whatever you are doing.
    Yes you will. There are a number of very dense areas in the game where it can take you over a minute to get out of combat, particularly beastman strongholds where a lot of daily quests are (that should be a reasonable thing to do during a long queue). Abandoning your craft is not a good solution, crafting should be a reasonable thing to do during a long queue but now you have to risk potentially expensive materials against losing a strike in a queue because it pops at the wrong time. 1 minute is just not all that long when you're in the middle of doing something else. Any bit of lag or disruption will cause a problem

    You have to realize the the PRIMARY problem with this is fishing for in progress queues. There's no other reason why you see the abandon queue with the frequency we do now. Why hurt everyone when they should be addressing that specific problem. Instead they release a poorly thought out, overly strict solution and call it a day.

    The withdrawals from queues IS a problem and it DID need to be fixed. But they can do much better, and it is very disappointing that this is all they have come up with.

    Quote Originally Posted by Yhoiryo View Post
    I don't think so at all, you're queuing up for something which is essentially saying "I'm ready, lets do this." Sure you have to wait if your a DPS generally but if you know somethings going to come up than withdraw before the notice pops up and or once your in your dungeon let your party know that "Hey I need to go to the restroom or can I grab a snack real quick." and generally I'd think most people would be ok to this having to wait 2-4 minutes more than having someone drop out and letting DF take another 10-20 minutes finding a rep.
    If it takes 10-20 minutes to find a rep, it's because the person that dropped has no desire to start at the beginning of the dungeon right now, and he was the only person available to join your group. If the person goes to the bathroom, they will be back in the queue within that same period of time, and your group is still at the front of the line, so he will rejoin and you will not have to wait any longer (although you'll not be sitting around in a dungeon twiddling your thumbs either).
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    Last edited by Giantbane; 10-25-2014 at 12:51 PM.

  6. #86
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    Wobble's Avatar
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    Wobble Wibblewobb
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    Balmung
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    White Mage Lv 60
    I'll have to try it on an alt and see how long the penalty is if they don't tell us, but this is a long over due change.
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  7. #87
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    Alukah Bast
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    Excalibur
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    Goldsmith Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Miya_Carbuncle View Post
    Seriously? That's being selfish on your part. "Welp, I need to use the bathroom really quick, better restart my hour long queue!" I never minded waiting for the occasional DPS withdraw as a tank or healer, and it's definitely worse for the DPS to wait for another queue than it is for a tank or healer to simply wait for other DPS.
    It's a princess healer you're talking to, people seem to forget healers and tanks are the main reason why this restriction is being placed.
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  8. #88
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    Zaero's Avatar
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    A'linhbo Taqah
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    Behemoth
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    Dragoon Lv 60
    Three strikes for 24 hours. That seems fair to me. Anyone withdrawing three times or more in a day is either going for a "drop in at last fight of ST" move, messing with queues, or seriously needs to rethink their priorities in a day.
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  9. #89
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    Magnesium02's Avatar
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    Rogue Muse
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    Tonberry
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    Paladin Lv 96
    There's been times when I haven't been able to accept cause i was in a fate on another class and by the time the mob was dead, or I had run away to lose agro or times when u am working on a high level craft plus lag on changing classes it was too late. Hopefully this won't stung genuine inability to start a duty too much
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  10. #90
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    Bobbin Threadbare
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    Masamune
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    Thaumaturge Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Magnesium02 View Post
    There's been times when I haven't been able to accept cause i was in a fate on another class and by the time the mob was dead, or I had run away to lose agro or times when u am working on a high level craft plus lag on changing classes it was too late. Hopefully this won't stung genuine inability to start a duty too much
    Be less materialistic maybe? lol

    That's still one funny siggy you still keep using there. XD
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