Page 6 of 17 FirstFirst ... 4 5 6 7 8 16 ... LastLast
Results 51 to 60 of 164
  1. #51
    Player
    Edeline's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2014
    Posts
    381
    Character
    Oerba'dia Vanille
    World
    Hyperion
    Main Class
    Conjurer Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by WinterSolstice View Post
    Well BLMs get rather fucked in Frontlines after this patch. Effectively only making swiftcast useful for sleep.

    ...why SE. Just why. We cast slowly in the first place, swiftcast was damn near necessary to make that finishing blow on a healer. We're a nuke class, and you took the ability to effectively use Flare away from us.
    Don't worry, you won't have problems nuking healers (if people bother playing them anymore). Every cast being canceled by each attack received plus less heals allowed, you're just a walking target.
    (2)

  2. #52
    Player
    Keisatsu's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2014
    Posts
    90
    Character
    Kei Satsu
    World
    Tonberry
    Main Class
    Gladiator Lv 50
    oh my god some of ninja's moves are downright broken in effect / potency O_O
    (1)

  3. #53
    Player
    hallena's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2013
    Posts
    509
    Character
    Fara Venator
    World
    Coeurl
    Main Class
    Thaumaturge Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Edeline View Post
    Don't worry, you won't have problems nuking healers (if people bother playing them anymore). Every cast being canceled by each attack received plus less heals allowed, you're just a walking target.
    Everycast being canceled by attacks also apply to BLM. Which was his point because blm is literally useless if one person attack it.
    I was hoping this patch would allow firestarter to stack twice but i guess the devs like the idea of fire weaving being the only way to not waste firestarter proc
    (0)

  4. #54
    Player
    Dyvid's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2011
    Location
    Maelstrom
    Posts
    3,057
    Character
    Dyvid Pandemonium
    World
    Adamantoise
    Main Class
    Blacksmith Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by JonLuso View Post
    NIN and ROG's changes to Sneak and Trick Attack confuse me.

    In XI, which is where a lot of their moves are from, Sneak Attack took effect when you stood behind the enemy, as per the name; Trick Attack occurred in its entirety when you stood behind someone else attacking the enemy..
    Well the first issue is comparing it to FFXI. Sneak attack is a 500 pot attack when stealth and in front of the target.. Trick is only 400 when behind. SATA isn't back but when soloing or PvP SA is going to be a nice opener. So now Sneak attack is an attack while sneaking and trick attack debuffing the target.
    (1)
    Last edited by Dyvid; 10-25-2014 at 01:51 AM.

  5. #55
    Player
    hallena's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2013
    Posts
    509
    Character
    Fara Venator
    World
    Coeurl
    Main Class
    Thaumaturge Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Keisatsu View Post
    oh my god some of ninja's moves are downright broken in effect / potency O_O
    I think it depend what their weapon's damage is gonna be and the cooldown on their mentra.
    but it seems like the devs gave them everything. big damage. attack speed. movement. stun. silence. offgcd attacks.
    This has the potential of being wow's deathknight disaster if their weapon's damage is high enough
    (1)

  6. #56
    Player
    Edeline's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2014
    Posts
    381
    Character
    Oerba'dia Vanille
    World
    Hyperion
    Main Class
    Conjurer Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by hallena View Post
    Everycast being canceled by attacks also apply to BLM. Which was his point because blm is literally useless if one person attack it.
    I was hoping this patch would allow firestarter to stack twice but i guess the devs like the idea of fire weaving being the only way to not waste firestarter proc
    I play all 3 of them, BLM, WHM and SCH in PvP. I know it applies to every caster, BLMs however arent focused by 4~5 dpsers all the time making a whole class completely nulled because even if you use Equanimity, you'll get stunlocked, silenced and pushed (if not LBed). BLMs can kite around while using Scathe and I've never been focused that badly as BLM, rarely happens. In fact I usually get 100k+ damage dealt because they're busy zerging healers. My latest record was getting a cast canceled with a 20 damage (stoneskin) attack on me, so it probably is caused by being attacked, not damage dealt, which is bs.
    They keep nerfing healers because several healers in a single party is too op, but at the same time every nerf applied makes a party the need of more healers to be efficient. People then will complain is too op still, and more nerf will come, making more healers needed even more, and so on. Until they completely disable the posibility to queue as a healer/switch class inside to healer I guess.
    (1)
    Last edited by Edeline; 10-25-2014 at 01:57 AM.

  7. #57
    Player
    Tupsi's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2012
    Posts
    3,149
    Character
    Odsarzol Que
    World
    Balmung
    Main Class
    Arcanist Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Dyvid View Post
    Well the first issue is comparing it to FFXI. Sneak attack is a 500 pot attack when stealth and in front of the target.. Trick is only 400 when behind. SATA isn't back but when soloing SA is going to be a nice opener.
    Kind of hard not to..when it's the same 2 abilities minus the enmity transfer lol. The other FF games didn't have frontal/rear attacking mods.
    (0)

  8. #58
    Player
    JonLuso's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2011
    Location
    Gridania
    Posts
    80
    Character
    Rhyou Jylland
    World
    Leviathan
    Main Class
    White Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Tupsi View Post
    Kind of hard not to..when it's the same 2 abilities minus the enmity transfer lol. The other FF games didn't have frontal/rear attacking mods.
    Yeah, I'm not debating their usefulness now, but their names don't really match up to their origins.

    Using Sneak before Sneak Attack is fine, I guess, but the names are derived from positional attacks in XI, not from other abilities.
    (0)

  9. #59
    Player
    Radacci's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2012
    Location
    Gridania
    Posts
    1,699
    Character
    Austen Bloodspatter
    World
    Omega
    Main Class
    Lancer Lv 80
    am i missing something, or where are these skill infos?
    (0)

  10. #60
    Player
    Prototype909's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2013
    Posts
    532
    Character
    Haken Browning
    World
    Midgardsormr
    Main Class
    Gladiator Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Radacci View Post
    am i missing something, or where are these skill infos?
    Just Ctrl+F until you get to Ninja and Rogue abilities
    (1)

Page 6 of 17 FirstFirst ... 4 5 6 7 8 16 ... LastLast