[Suggestion] Please make it possible to "pass" after clicking "need" or "greed"

[Aleczan]

Not sure if anyone has asked about this before, but I searched the forum with keywords "let us pass after greed" and nothing relevant came up.

Is it possible for the system to be made so that the "pass" button is always available even after we already pushed the button "need" or "greed"?

Scenario 1:
I hit greed on some dungeon drop (because sometimes everyone passes and the item would go to waste, so I usually greed everything just so it won't be thrown away when I could exchange it for Grand Company seals) and then a friend said "Oh I want it for my XYZ job, please" and their greed roll happened to be lower than mine. So I won it when I could have passed for someone who needs it more.

Sad panda.

Scenario 2:
I was stupid and half-asleep and hit greed on an armor that dropped in Syrcus Tower when I was actually aiming to get Sands of Time from later bosses. Not everyone hit pass immediately, so there was a few seconds for me to realize my mistake and could have passed before I received the item. However, the "pass" button was no longer available.

Again, sad panda.

Therefore, I truly hope that the "pass" button is available all the time until the treasure is distributed.

[Nuinn]

I wish we had that option as well.... Not sure why they're not making it happen other than "Oh you guys, we're trying to prevent people from abusing it cause we're paranoid like that" >.>

[ItaruKarin]

Agreed, don't see any reason for this not to be implemented.

[TomTom1968]

Sounds good and while we are at it, please also make it so that if you are on a Loot lockout (Crystal Tower), you do not have to pass on the over a dozen of items during the run. I do not even need to see the Loot when I can't roll on it anyways.

[Miya_Carbuncle]

I hope this gets added. I accidentally needed on something that somebody else actually needed in DF, and I won. I felt terrible about it. D:

[Fated]

Coming to you in 4.0. Please look forward to it.

[LineageRazor]

Scenario 2:
I was stupid and half-asleep and hit greed on an armor that dropped in Syrcus Tower when I was actually aiming to get Sands of Time from later bosses. Not everyone hit pass immediately, so there was a few seconds for me to realize my mistake and could have passed before I received the item. However, the "pass" button was no longer available.

Well, in this case, at least, you can always just abandon the duty before the item drops. I agree, though - there's no good reason why a player shouldn't be able to "downgrade" their lot to a "Pass". I'd even argue that downgrading from Need to Greed should be a thing.

[ZodiacSoldier]

I would also like the option to let us Need / Greed after hitting pass. Or make it so that gear won't go into oblivion when everyone pass on it, return it too the chest or something. There were a few times where in my coil group where everyone pass on gear for someone's alt only to have them tell us "oh wait I have that already". Like seriously.

[LineageRazor]

I would also like the option to let us Need / Greed after hitting pass. Or make it so that gear won't go into oblivion when everyone pass on it, return it too the chest or something. There were a few times where in my coil group where everyone pass on gear for someone's alt only to have them tell us "oh wait I have that already". Like seriously.

I was prepared to counter this with examples from other MMOs as to why this would be a bad idea (it practically reeks of potential ninja-lot abuse), but after consideration of the hidden lotting system in this game it might not actually be so bad. Since you can't see the results of the lot until the item is actually won (or falls to the floor), why shouldn't you be able to shuffle freely from Need to Greed to Pass and back again all that you want? You could flip your lot eighteen times before the drop occurs, and the only thing the other party members will see is what you had up when the item drops - and if you flip eighteen times, it's not because you changed your mind after seeing what other people have lotted, because you're just as in the dark as they are.

There's no way to predict or prevent what a party member is going to lot, so there's no harm in allowing a party member to switch up what they choose to do. If they're going to break lotting rules decided by the party in advance, there's really no way to stop them. Allowing lot shuffling, though, WOULD allow someone to correct a lot or pass they made by mistake.

[Aleczan]

Well, in this case, at least, you can always just abandon the duty before the item drops. I agree, though - there's no good reason why a player shouldn't be able to "downgrade" their lot to a "Pass". I'd even argue that downgrading from Need to Greed should be a thing.

I was so tempted to tell the alliance that I'm going to abandon to dodge that treasure lol. However, I was in there with a friend and I decided against it.

Ability to downgrade your own lot roll sounds like a great idea.