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    Hm... It might not be appropriate to say this but excuse me, I will say it anyway...as an off tank, even with no Defiance up or Shield Oath, as long as your gears are relatively close to the best geared DPS, you should ALWAYS be the second on the aggro list.

    PAL should always be the second on the aggro list due to the nature of the aggro combo. War, only when he does not EVER use his Butcher Block combos, an occasionally Butcher block combo can easily ensure him as the second place on aggro list.

    I pretty sure all the healing that the healers do during the snake phases will not affect the aggro list on Twintania but rather stop when she finishes her second set if Divebomb. As long as the OT not dying and he is the second place when Twin disappears, he should always be on the second list without the need to use Provoke tatic.
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    I've never seen it happen myself prior to the echo buff, no idea how it is nowadays with echo. However, it is a way to ensure you're on top of the hate list for whatever strange obscure magic may occur. One way I can think of not to get second on the hate list would be because the black mage* is second in the list as result from AoEing with Twintania in it, phase is pushed and the OT is subjected for the (first) conflag. Chances for this to happen is low, but the odds are still there. Provoking Twintania when she comes down from the divebombs doesn't really cause any issues or complicates the mechanics. Rather, it ensures the OT is second on the list.

    *Or any other class for that matter. For example: A monk or dragoon ignoring the small dragons and simply letting the casters handle it.
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    But but but that is pressing one extra button for no reason or whatsoever... And frankly speaking, unless he has the macro with sound effect to signal Twin had been provoked, most people don't expect that move, therefore not ready to react and the moment Twin flys over to the party neulink, PLUMET is on the face even with the MT trying to take it back. Don't do it unless it is a MUST if you don't want people have a glance at you for doing so unnecessarily.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LionKing View Post
    But but but that is pressing one extra button for no reason or whatsoever... And frankly speaking, unless he has the macro with sound effect to signal Twin had been provoked, most people don't expect that move, therefore not ready to react and the moment Twin flys over to the party neulink, PLUMET is on the face even with the MT trying to take it back. Don't do it unless it is a MUST if you don't want people have a glance at you for doing so unnecessarily.
    well, that's why I also mentioned to stand in the neuro link with the tank. A plummet on the tank (be it MT or OT) is barely a dent in the armor.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lyrica_Ashtine View Post
    well, that's why I also mentioned to stand in the neuro link with the tank. A plummet on the tank (be it MT or OT) is barely a dent in the armor.
    Right? Plummet is pretty much a joke unless it immediately follows a DS (which you should usually have a cd up for anyway). The one that comes after the AOE at the phase shift can be problematic without alert healers, though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ashkendor View Post
    Right? Plummet is pretty much a joke unless it immediately follows a DS (which you should usually have a cd up for anyway). The one that comes after the AOE at the phase shift can be problematic without alert healers, though.
    Hmm I can hardly call it a problem. The transition won't take even 50% of the tank's health, still very capable of surviving a plummet. Heck, they can probably soak up another plummet! Chest bumping Twintania is something a tank can easily handle. Jokes aside, it's completely fine taking a bit of damage during/shortly after the transition. Whatever happens in that phase is either dodged or will instantly murder you, tank or no tank. A single regen from the white mage or some fairy oil massage* will get you topped off before the phase is over.

    *I pray all of you have done the Manderville quests...
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