T5 questions

[badonkadonk]

i've never tried T5 and i'm willing to, and although i watched some guides, i still have some questions.
assuming the party has 2 tanks and i'm OT:
1)do i always help soaking fireball damage?
2)if i'm targeted by fireball and conflag is up, do i always enter conflag?
3)do i grab only the little serpents or asclepyus too?
4)assuming i grab at least the little ones, once the 2 adds on the opposite sides appear, do i grab them and then go back to the "divebomb area"? this phase i really haven't quite understood...
5)i must not try to aggro the dreadknight, must i?
6)while inside the neural link, absorbing hatches, if i'm targeted by liquid hell, i run away and everyone takes care of him/herself in case of hatch, correct? at least until liquid fire stops and fire pool on neural link disappears, right?
7)how much accuracy do i need?
8)in case it's a solo-tank run, do i grab Twintania AND all 3 scourges at the start of the fight?
Thanks in advance for any help

[repoe]

1- yes
2- yes as this will extend time left on conflag
3- depending on groups strat. you will grab small adds untill they die or hold for LB.
4- depending on groups strat. as MT ill take off with Asclp. after the 2nd DB of the 2nd Set. to pick up the new Adds.
5- dreads randomly pick a target from the group except the top 2 threats. as a tank. ensure your threat is 2nd as OT. as a Warrior you most likely will be MT if the group also has a PLD.
6-depending on groups strat- but you can heal thru it- i do as Solo Tank
7-i dont remember - i was i think around 490ish when i first cleared i think.
8- yes.

[LionKing]

1/ Yes unless your pt consists at least of 2 pets. 2 Pets can do the job instead of you.
2/ You will always on the second aggro list if you are running as OT, and you won't get targeted for Fireball,Conflag, or Hatch, never. General strat: Run into Conflag if you have Fireball.
3/ & 4/ Main tank grabs the big snakes while Off tank grabs the small snakes. After the second of the second set of Divbomb (the 3 set of Divebomb AFTER the snakes appear), Off tank run ahead to the other side and wait to grab straight away aggro on the remaining 2 small snakes and re-group with the big snake for AoE LB. Could also go the other way around. Make sure to discuss who grab what to avoid confusion.
5/Dreadknight will always follows to whoever got imprisoned, regardless of aggro, you job as OT (assuming you are Paladin), is to stun the Dread before it reaches its target while avoiding Twister and not run into any other players. Second aggro will always not on the target table for the prison.
6/While inside the Neulink and you are targeted by 5 set of Liquid Hell, either pop Hallow Ground AFTER the fifth Liquid Hell had been dropped, or tell the group before starting the fight that you would run away and that they need to run into Neulink to absorb the hatch themselves.
7/490 if you are Mtking, as Otking, you only need minimum of 470.
8/Solo Tank, you grab everything: Twin/3 Scourges, Bigsnake/Smallsnakes, Stun Dread, Absorbs Hatch while tanking Twintania. If you are not EXPERIENCED with the fight, DO NOT try solo tank this as if you get twisted, or fail Dread, or kill other players with Twister, fail to grab aggro on all the mobs,... the pt will have a very hard time and wipe consistently.

In short, if you are dead (for any reason), the fight is OVER... GAME OVER!!!!

[anubis1820]

Hey there badonkadonk the only way you will see two tanks in t5 is thru df I know the last 5 clears I've helpped new comers on has been solo tank. Now with that said as solo tanking goes pally is your best be. So start by popping a defense cd then fast blades and flash a lot w CoS so you grab all. P3 same as before a lot of flash w CoS now P4 is hard you have to stun dk the 3xs and still watch out 4 twister. P5 is very easy just sit on the nuro link at end of P4 and eat the hatches as you pop defense cd. Any other questions just ask ill help you out more if needed mister anubis standing bye

[PetiteMalFleur]

I've cleared over 100 times with solo and duo tanks and find solo tanking strat way harder. The dps checks are a joke anyway so unless you are confident in all mechanics of the fight go with two tanks.

1. Standard strat on my server is to have pld OT stack with 1 pets to soak fireball damage. Run into conflag if it is up.
2. Yes, unless it's about to die then stay in soak.
3/4. Grab little snakes as OT. After 5th DB hit Tempered Will and grab the other two. You can drag them to the center for lb but I suggest tanking them where they spawn. Use big cooldowns. You'll be taking a lot of damage once they start to die.
5. Maintain yourself as second on aggro by timing a provoke on twin. Just stun dread, wait for stun to drop off before stunning again. If you are MT just watch for death sentence and twisters.
6. Don't ever leave the neurolink. You take reduced damage standing inside. You must stay there to eat all the hatches no matter what. Your healers will heal you through liquid hell. Stoneskin yourself to help them out.
7. 490
8. Not recommended for a tank who doesn't know the fight.

Lastly /focustarget Twintania.

[Lyrica_Ashtine]

It was mentioned that the first two players on the enmity list do not get targeted for Dreadknight souryuuken's. This is true. But it wasn't mentioned how to make sure you're second on that list.

During the transition after the snakes phase, you should provoke Twintania. This will ensure you are on top of the hate list. If you're worried to get your party a subject for plummets: Stand in the neurolink with the main tank. Any action the other tank does after your provoke* will outhate you easily. Refrain from doing anything for a few seconds to give him a bit of head start again.

* Be it shield lob/tomahawk, a cure on him/herself or another provoke.

[LionKing]

Hm... It might not be appropriate to say this but excuse me, I will say it anyway...as an off tank, even with no Defiance up or Shield Oath, as long as your gears are relatively close to the best geared DPS, you should ALWAYS be the second on the aggro list.

PAL should always be the second on the aggro list due to the nature of the aggro combo. War, only when he does not EVER use his Butcher Block combos, an occasionally Butcher block combo can easily ensure him as the second place on aggro list.

I pretty sure all the healing that the healers do during the snake phases will not affect the aggro list on Twintania but rather stop when she finishes her second set if Divebomb. As long as the OT not dying and he is the second place when Twin disappears, he should always be on the second list without the need to use Provoke tatic.

[Lyrica_Ashtine]

I've never seen it happen myself prior to the echo buff, no idea how it is nowadays with echo. However, it is a way to ensure you're on top of the hate list for whatever strange obscure magic may occur. One way I can think of not to get second on the hate list would be because the black mage* is second in the list as result from AoEing with Twintania in it, phase is pushed and the OT is subjected for the (first) conflag. Chances for this to happen is low, but the odds are still there. Provoking Twintania when she comes down from the divebombs doesn't really cause any issues or complicates the mechanics. Rather, it ensures the OT is second on the list.

*Or any other class for that matter. For example: A monk or dragoon ignoring the small dragons and simply letting the casters handle it.

[Ashkendor]

i've never tried T5 and i'm willing to, and although i watched some guides, i still have some questions.
assuming the party has 2 tanks and i'm OT:
1)do i always help soaking fireball damage?
2)if i'm targeted by fireball and conflag is up, do i always enter conflag?
3)do i grab only the little serpents or asclepyus too?
4)assuming i grab at least the little ones, once the 2 adds on the opposite sides appear, do i grab them and then go back to the "divebomb area"? this phase i really haven't quite understood...
5)i must not try to aggro the dreadknight, must i?
6)while inside the neural link, absorbing hatches, if i'm targeted by liquid hell, i run away and everyone takes care of him/herself in case of hatch, correct? at least until liquid fire stops and fire pool on neural link disappears, right?
7)how much accuracy do i need?
8)in case it's a solo-tank run, do i grab Twintania AND all 3 scourges at the start of the fight?
Thanks in advance for any help

1. As OT, yes you would unless there are 3 pets in the party.
2. Yes, though you shouldn't be since you should be second on the hate list.
3. That depends on your group strat. Discuss before the run.
4. Depends on the group strat. It's easier to have OT grab the other two if you have two tanks, though.
5. You shouldn't be targeted if you're second in hate, I don't think.
6. No. If you're targeted by Liquid Hell, you stay put and pop a cd even in a single-tank strat.
7. 490-ish iirc.
8. Yes, you grab all of the mobs at the beginning.

I kinda wish you were on my server so I could lend a hand. I like helping with T5 clears. ^^

8/Solo Tank, you grab everything: Twin/3 Scourges, Bigsnake/Smallsnakes, Stun Dread, Absorbs Hatch while tanking Twintania. If you are not EXPERIENCED with the fight, DO NOT try solo tank this as if you get twisted, or fail Dread, or kill other players with Twister, fail to grab aggro on all the mobs,... the pt will have a very hard time and wipe consistently.

Eh. I got my first clear as a solo tank. It's honestly not all that much more difficult than the duo tank strat, but maybe I'm just used to it. I get a little confused when I have an OT since I've pretty much always solo tanked it. The only time I do the duo tank strat is when I'm helping another tank get a clear; if they aren't confident or geared enough to solo tank, or if they are a warrior (dem Dreadknights doe) I'll play the OT role in DPS accessories.

In short, if you are dead (for any reason), the fight is OVER... GAME OVER!!!!

But yes, this. If the tank dies in a solo tank run you mayaswell just wipe it.

[LionKing]

But but but that is pressing one extra button for no reason or whatsoever... And frankly speaking, unless he has the macro with sound effect to signal Twin had been provoked, most people don't expect that move, therefore not ready to react and the moment Twin flys over to the party neulink, PLUMET is on the face even with the MT trying to take it back. Don't do it unless it is a MUST if you don't want people have a glance at you for doing so unnecessarily.