Ronin/Samurai abilities

[Altijacek]

Updated opening post, bump!

[Altijacek]

Holy cow that's really good compared to mine

[MomomiMomi]

Holy cow that's really good compared to mine

Going to assume you're being humble. Yours fits a lot better thematically, doesn't break the entire battle system's design, and isn't overpowered as all hell.

[Altijacek]

Well what I meant was that yours is just so detailed and out there, and sounds super fun. I approached the creation of mine with ffxiv battle system in mind, and you approached it with SAMURAI in mind.

For those wondering, ability names for mine come from past Final Fantasy names

[MomomiMomi]

Well what I meant was that yours is just so detailed and out there, and sounds super fun. I approached the creation of mine with ffxiv battle system in mind, and you approached it with SAMURAI in mind.

For those wondering, ability names for mine come from past Final Fantasy names

But... but I didn't post mine! But I understand you meant the other person. :P

I do agree with that other post, yours could use a bit of balance adjustments. I'm sorry to say I'm not in the mood to thoroughly look into offering balance suggestions myself. I'm not even willing to detail my own idea for Samurai, which is a tank as well.

I do like that you used a lot of names from past FF games. Some of them I would have probably used a different name for. One that stood out is that I don't really like the Bravely Default ability names. But they're just names, not too important.

Overall, it's good.

[Zanmato]

Holy cow that's really good compared to mine

Well, let's not compare. Mine is based upon the Hybrid job, yours is based upon the tank job. They are very different.

I made mine with the intent of forcing the player to move, A LOT. Having to move from melee range to distant range and having to charge the abilities in order to keep the dps going and actually dealing enough damage to be worth a damn. Thanks for the compliment however. I like yours as well. :3

doesn't break the entire battle system's design, and isn't overpowered as all hell.

I'm all ears.

[Altijacek]

OH sorry didn't realize poster names lol but thanks so much for the input anyways :3

[MomomiMomi]

You call it a melee and ranged hybrid with high attack power and low vitality, but it has high evasion and high parry and the ability to heal itself, largely countering its drawback.

It has very strong debilitating effects.

It can restore 100 TP and 18% MP to the party every 2.5 minutes. Compare to Shroud of Saints, which currently restores about 1000 MP, a bit less than 25% (and it's not a %), to the WHM's MP (and nobody else's) every 2 minutes. Also steps on BRD's toes.

It has some powerful abilities with 15 minute and 1 hour recast times. The game is balanced around 5 minute recasts.

It can give Dragoons the ability to play well. That alone breaks the game.

[HakuroDK]

It can give Dragoons the ability to play well. That alone breaks the game.

Dang, that IS broken! Dragoons aren't supposed to play well!

[Zanmato]

You call it a melee and ranged hybrid with high attack power and low vitality, but it has high evasion and high parry and the ability to heal itself, largely countering its drawback.

It has very strong debilitating effects.

It can restore 100 TP and 18% MP to the party every 2.5 minutes. Compare to Shroud of Saints, which currently restores about 1000 MP, a bit less than 25% (and it's not a %), to the WHM's MP (and nobody else's) every 2 minutes. Also steps on BRD's toes.

It has some powerful abilities with 15 minute and 1 hour recast times. The game is balanced around 5 minute recasts.

It can give Dragoons the ability to play well. That alone breaks the game.

Hahaha! That DRG joke. ^-^ Well... I guess I can adjust a thing or two.

Just want to point out that in order to get those 18% (now 8%) MP is decently expensive (300 TP).
The self-heal costs 2 stacks of sorrow, which is something you don't have every day and should be careful with once your timer starts to tick.
The heal from canceling the Burn is something that you may not want to do, based upon how many stacks there is, and concerning how much damage you lose from canceling it.
The innate healing resistance also reduces the percentage unless mentioned otherwise. :3

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The reason for the long timers is due to just that, the moves are so good that they should require a long cooldown.
The parry is merely effective in Earth Stance, and the job itself is demanding to be played in Fire stance, or you will lose 20% damage/slash.
However, you are forced to revisit Earth Stance for the movement speed buff to get to places faster and keeping your dps going.