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    Taking final fantasy 3 as a basis, balance needs to be maintained between light and dark. when one becomes too powerful warriors are cerated to being back balance. Or to end up pushing the other back and tip the scales the other way. In FF3 dark was dominant so Warriors of light appeared, yet in the story it mentions when light was dominant warriors of dark appeared.

    So we are Warriors of Light, are Ascians warriors of dark?

    When you are unlocking Leviabeetus (sic) you find out that through the power of the echo you can take over another body if yours dies, as shown by the Sahagin priest. Something which the Ascians do, which gives further credence to the Ascians being warriors of dark if they have been given the power of the Echo by Zodiark. As I'm assuming Warriors of dark would be given pretty much the same abilities as those of light.

    Or where they warriors of light that where converted/corrupted to follow Zodiark?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sapphic View Post
    Taking final fantasy 3 as a basis, balance needs to be maintained between light and dark. when one becomes too powerful warriors are cerated to being back balance. Or to end up pushing the other back and tip the scales the other way. In FF3 dark was dominant so Warriors of light appeared, yet in the story it mentions when light was dominant warriors of dark appeared.

    So we are Warriors of Light, are Ascians warriors of dark?
    This is exactly what I was getting at.

    Quote Originally Posted by Kyle2006 View Post
    We know Primals are beings summoned by aether and prayers, I believe since the summoning of Great King Moogle Mog that primals are created through strong enough prayer and an abundance of aether. This theory would put into question how each summoning summons the same primal and why new primals aren't made often. However I believ this is due to belief, it is easier to pray to something you believe exists, for examples primales you have heard that have been summoned in the past or a legendery figure like King Moogle Mog (possible Odin), and once created they are part of the lifestream
    Although we may be branching a bit, here's something more to think about (let's see if I can explain it well enough):

    What if these primals were nothing before they were first summoned. 100% did not exist. Now, imagine someone/something decided to pray for someone/something to come save them from somethingsomthingterrible over a bunch of "sacred crystals" they had found and gathered. Then, where there was no being before, sprung a creature from these "sacred crystals" to answer their prayers. These, people, we'll say, created this being themselves.
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    So, this primal was birthed in our realm originally, from nothing but crystallized aether, hopes and wishes. Now, you could say that this is how summoning is done every time and that they are created from scratch on each occasion. But, I think we would have seen some sort of telephone game happening. Either the same primal would never be summoned twice or the same primal would be summoned slightly different each time with a slightly different attitude and probably no memory or knowledge other than what its' creators (worshipers) gave it.

    I see this possibility as unlikely, as, at least in the 'modern' primals, their consciousness seems consistent. So, for the sake of this theory, let's rule that out and continue.
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    The primal then wanders the world after it completed the assigned task until one day some guys with giant balls come to challenge it (they'd have to to fight a 'god', right?). They end up winning and the primal is now dead x_x . So, all that aether the primal (and everything else for that matter, save for voidsent) was composed of now has to go somewhere, right? Back to the planet/lifestream/hydaelyn! However, when this aether goes back, the particles/whateveritsmadeupof, retain memory and reform the being it once was, but now on the aethereal plane, similar to how we, the PC, de/materialize on either side of aetheryte. Now there's a, for all intents and purposes, living being in the aethereal realm and all it needs to come back to its' home is a door, one that's opened for it specifically by people praying reeeeeally hard, begging it to come through, and who have lots 'n' lots of aether to help it materialize on the other side, consider it a make-shift aetheryte. Easy~peasy.

    Oh, yeah, and the more aether these people have, the more the primal absorbs and the more powerful it becomes.
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