Hey, Sincerely Thank You SE for easing up on Coil

[Ooshima]

New players will be screwed if PUG/FC/LS have to spend hours and hours to regain the muscle memory to do Coil 2. Imagine not touching coil for 6 months and having to do T6-9 to help a new FC member with a new coil group. Will that go smoothly ? :P

Not really. If you have wiped enough times you would probably have the muscle memory to do it. Your new gear and echo would pull you though even though you screw up here and there. We get odd request to carry things like T5/Titan EX etc which sometimes the last time it was sold was like at least a month back but we still can do it.

[Maxwell]

We get odd request to carry things like T5/Titan EX etc which sometimes the last time it was sold was like at least a month back but we still can do it.

T5/TitanEX are way more recoverable than T7-9. T7-9 have too much insta wipe potential regardless of echo/gear. Scripts way more strict, sensitive and faster paced than T5. It's probably why they felt the need to ease up on those insta kill mechanics. I'd like to see SE's clear rates numbers to get a better idea on that. Those numbers had them stop at 25% echo for Coil 1, but take a step back on mechanics before even implementing echo !? There must be a serious gap in clear rates between 1 and 2.

[Ooshima]

T5/TitanEX are way more recoverable than T7-9. T7-9 have too much insta wipe potential regardless of echo/gear. Scripts way more strict, sensitive and faster paced than T5. It's probably why they felt the need to ease up on those insta kill mechanics. I'd like to see SE's clear rates numbers to get a better idea on that. Those numbers had them stop at 25% echo for Coil 1, but take a step back on mechanics before even implementing echo !? There must be a serious gap in clear rates between 1 and 2.

To be really frank, the only shit thing about SCoB is T7, because any mistake you make can indeed wipe the raid. It is just how like ADS's High Voltage was and that was nerfed. Petrification would probably be nerfed because of that. All else there isn't any really instant wipe mechanics. We are so geared by now, T8 you can have a single player touch the tower twice. During farming stage we were talking crap load of nonsense over VOIP and time to time we did crap load of derpshits like charging them too much and landmines insta popped on us or forgetting to charge etc.

This week's T9, again we were talking too much and doing too little. Earthshock not silenced and we lived though the golems and megaflare. Crap happened after that and we ran merry go round with the third heavensfall which we haven't seen for months. WHM derped and didn't cleanse, died in Phase 4 and I was literally playing Ballad whenever I have MP to recover the healer's MPs, DPS died and we went through 3 divebombs, but it was still a one-shot.

All in all the only really dangerous thing in SCoB is petrification and I'm sure that's going to get nerfed. All other mechanics are pretty recoverable and survivable given current gear and will only be easier with new gear and echo.


EDIT: okay, maybe Earthshock too. That's pretty annoying because it can't be leeched/esuna'd

[Kuroyasha]

Hmmm....you know what OP...after reading the whole post....I agree