Coil Lite Please

[Parz3val]

I don't think Echo will cut it necessarily for a lot of the player-base with SCOB.

T9 will likely be a much greater wall than t5 for many I believe.

Just have it drop 15 ilvl's below Normal (or none at all though that wouldn't help ppl along).

T5 would benefit from this greatly...

Twisters no longer one-shotting, Electric Fence only hurting & freezing (divebomb-fence murder combo prevention), etc.

((just a couple ideas))

A number of players just want to experience the story personally & care a bit less about the stress of it. A part of that story is the immersion in defeating/witnessing the encounters so being able to view the post-fight cutscenes for nothing doesn't count.

((btw this suggestion isn't for me, I just feel for the players still stuck on T5 & who will likely have a worse time in SCOB, particularly t9))

For fairness, on current Coil (soon-to-be Third Coil), ez-mode variant could be subject to the same lockout rules like Savage is currently (although I'm one of the ppl who thinks the current lockout system needs revision...).

This wouldn't be as big of a need if SE didn't put such meaningful or significant plot behind such difficult content.

[Metatronn]

Yeah, they need to do this asap. The majority of ppl are not able to find other good ppl do to coils, cause the ones able are on static. SE needs to stop paying attention on the hardcore minority.

[Parz3val]

Yeah, they need to do this asap. The majority of ppl are not able to find other good ppl do to coils, cause the ones able are on static. SE needs to stop paying attention on the hardcore minority.

Sadly I don't think they're paying great attention to either.

No good hard 4-mans & raids that're too tough for your common casual.

Not to mention Savage's weak implementation (imo, no offense SE!).

[Sholah]

SE needs to stop paying attention on the hardcore minority.

Literally everything in this game aside from Coil is built for the most casual of players. Hardcore players get one thing to work towards, and you can't handle that?

[kyuven]

the coils are SUPPOSED to be hard, though. The only real issue is there isn't a real incentive for veterans to go back and do t5 (and later t9) thus people wanting access to SCOB and later TCOB are stuck behind the progression wall.
The encounters are built around mechanics. I'm willing to wager a lot of money that t10+ are going to be even more mechanics based than t6-9
Then again a lot of this static nonsense could've been avoided entirely if they had found a better way to do lockouts. Woe be to the player with more than 7 friends.
I still fail to see why they can't just make Coil work like CT and simply lock the loot to once a week and not combine it with a lockout on the zone itself. I understand it's to prevent people from selling clears...but they're already doing that with the current system...

[SarcasmMisser]

Yeah, they need to do this asap. The majority of ppl are not able to find other good ppl do to coils, cause the ones able are on static. SE needs to stop paying attention on the hardcore minority.

And of course every one who isn't in a static (the majority) that you could conceivably party with is bad (except the majority who are apparently good) and you need the good people in statics to help you clear stuff.

Why are people so desperate to avoid admitting that maybe they're one of the people that stops pugs from clearing? Every post made like this is just sad.

[Wyrmnus]

And of course every one who isn't in a static (the majority) that you could conceivably party with is bad (except the majority who are apparently good) and you need the good people in statics to help you clear stuff.

Why are people so desperate to avoid admitting that maybe they're one of the people that stops pugs from clearing? Every post made like this is just sad.

So what do you expect them to do even if they should realize some faults in their playing style? What's the GRAND ULTIMATE SOLUTION to create peace amongst us all? Or do the veterans of the game ENJOY sneering down upon the more casual minded players, fat off their victorious pride?

[SarcasmMisser]

So what do you expect them to do even if they should realize some faults in their playing style? What's the GRAND ULTIMATE SOLUTION to create peace amongst us all? Or do the veterans of the game ENJOY sneering down upon the more casual minded players, fat off their victorious pride?

Far from it, it looks like the person I was quoting was sneering at the general pugs while tacitly assuming that the problem could not possibly be within the hypothetical player. There is nothing worse than a player who blames everyone but themselves.

[Ametrine]

Jeezus.

I think literally EVERY Final Fantasy game has a super boss that's is this giant wall of difficulty that only the most dedicated and superior of players are able to defeat. Like FFVII's Ruby and Emerald Weapon, or FFIX's Ozma.

It's one TEENY TINY chunk of content added to a MASSIVE game for the extreme hardcore players. And as far as I, a casual player, am concerned, they deserve to be rewarded for beating it and have it as an option to play. If you see a player running around in full high allagan, THEY FUCKING EARNED IT.

Besides, SE has implemented alternate routes for us less-hardcore players to get BIS gear and weaponry options, such as unweathered soldiery gear being on par with the high allagan, just with slight variations to stats. (and yes, I know all about how said variations can make gear slant one way or another for certain skills, but unless you are already Coil level or working that way, the differences are negligible for the content a step below it.) We also have confirmation that new allagan tomestones are added, likely being the main alternative to whatever gear the final coil drops for players willing to endure it.

Basically, what I'm saying is, let those psychopaths that like super, extreme, masochistic fights have their fun.

[Metatronn]

I blame myself when i make mistakes and the mistakes are not even the problem. Someone make a mistake on the party, then other person and the party disbands. Yay, hours on pf for nothing, this repeats for days and days, this is your idea of fun? Also i would not have a problem with coil (would not even play it) if they decided to no put the great reason ppl who like history, played ARR in the first place (the calamity)