Thread: Primal Predictions for 3.0

1. the problem is OP, u assume Midgarsormr's form is "unique" among dragons. not to mention the serpentine wyrm on Heavensward logo have a pair of hind legs, which i doubt Midgarsormr have it because it didn't showed up on his corpse
2. if u guys really watched the stream, theres a section where all that left inside final coil3 end is Bahamut's head and neck, no torso mind u. Thats quite a high possibility that shutting down the 3rd beam engine disperse Bahamut back into the aether /POOF

Originally Posted by Empressia

1. the problem is OP, u assume Midgarsormr's form is "unique" among dragons. not to mention the serpentine wyrm on Heavensward logo have a pair of hind legs, which i doubt Midgarsormr have it because it didn't showed up on his corpse
2. if u guys really watched the stream, theres a section where all that left inside final coil3 end is Bahamut's head and neck, no torso mind u. Thats quite a high possibility that shutting down the 3rd beam engine disperse Bahamut back into the aether /POOF

I did watch full free stream, they showed an image of Bahamut in Final Coil where he has his upper torso, right wing, and half of his left wing restored.

Niddhog is the Wyrmking, Midgarsormr is the guardian of MorDhona and Bahamut is an elder primal. I think "elder" just mean is not affiliated to any element or race and "primal" is that he have the same or more strengh than the actual primals. Also Moogle King is not a primal is more like a manifestation on eather by the moogles that call him back.

Originally Posted by Myrhn

Bahamut is an elder primal. I think "elder" just mean is not affiliated to any element or race and "primal" is that he have the same or more strengh than the actual primals.

As mentioned earlier, this has just been recently explained:

Originally Posted by Torquil

Fern has also confirmed that an elder primal is just one that has been worshipped a very....VERY long time.

And by very long time, we do mean very, very long ago. As in, at least as long ago as the time of the Allagan Empire, back in the Third Astral Era. By comparison, the Dravanians go back to perhaps a thousand years or more, into the Sixth Astral Era, and perhaps also in Fifth Astral Era. Meaning to say, I doubt Bahamut is the primal of the Dravanians, since he's been around for far, far longer than they have. (At this point, I'd hazard that the Dravanians are the descendants of dragons once enslaved by the Allagans, but are no longer of the same race).

Originally Posted by Myrhn

Also Moogle King is not a primal is more like a manifestation on eather by the moogles that call him back.

It's anyone's guess what a primal truly is at this moment. The Scions were just as confused as we are about King Moogle Mog XII. He created aetherial disturbances the way a true primal would, even though he wasn't actually "real", in the way the "elemental six" are real, in the sense that they have actual worshippers.

Originally Posted by Myrhn

I think "elder" just mean is not affiliated to any element or race and "primal" is that he have the same or more strengh than the actual primals.

Fernehalwes, our favourite Songster and floating eyeball, said during the Fanfest that "Elder primals" just meant "A primal from another era whose worship fell into oblivion". He mentioned Odin as in "People were worshipping him, they stopped, he's an elder primal, and now he's somehow back".
Also, Belias is an elder primal and clearly affiliated with fire.
Finally, primals aren't exclusive to certain races, as we had some Leviathan worshippers in Limsa Lominsa (and there's probably a fair bunch of sailors who at least think of him with respect, considering all the superstitions there's on the sea).

The Twelve are already fairly similar to the Olympians (like Olympians mixed with Zodiac signs)
and they are already fundamentally the same thing as Primals.

What's his face - Lahabrea - tried to coerce the Ala Mhigo refugees into summoning Rhalgr
the same way he (and Nero) coerced the beastmen to summon theirs.

Originally Posted by Shai

What's his face - Lahabrea - tried to coerce the Ala Mhigo refugees into summoning Rhalgr
the same way he (and Nero) coerced the beastmen to summon theirs.

The question is more like "Are the Twelves primals, or beings similar to Moggle Mog, a myth you can summon with enough crystals"

Originally Posted by TinyRedLeaf

It's anyone's guess what a primal truly is at this moment. The Scions were just as confused as we are about King Moogle Mog XII. He created aetherial disturbances the way a true primal would, even though he wasn't actually "real", in the way the "elemental six" are real, in the sense that they have actual worshippers.

Maybe King Mog is how the primals first started. "Wished" into existence then become as they are over time as they were continually "created". Until a permenant footprint was left on the aether.