Anyone Pro cash shop?

[Violyre]

As soon as they announced it, I just thought "SHUT UP AND TAKE MY MONEY!"

So while all these complaints happen and people quit because of something they can easily ignore, I will sit in town with my Y'shtola minion before I take off on my Slepnir mount.

[Cynfael]

There are so many Chicken Littles spouting wild-ass assumptions about the vanity cash shop and prattling on about how it's going to devour the game's soul that it's a miracle the forums haven't crashed under the unmitigated tide of bitching and caterwauling.

It's this simple:

If, following the cash shop's release, there is a corresponding reduction of new vanity items introduced to the game in comparison to previous patches while the cash shop inventory grows, by all means raise a stink. It may or may not change their business direction, but there'll at least be a point to be made.

If the game continues to be updated as usual and player-crafted glamours continue to be in demand despite additions to the cash shop, then there probably wasn't anything to get worked about in that regard.

If future cash shop additions turn out to be mostly legacy content or existing premium content (e.g. Moogle Attire, Loyalty cosmetics) made available in another way, then it will be hard to claim that "prepaid" development time is being diverted for this purpose.

Basically there are a lot of ifs, so it would be nice if people left their silly slippery slope arguments and other nonsense at the door and just waited to see what's coming before taking up arms, celebrating, or continuing not to care much either way.

[Kimikryo]

AAAAAAALL this QQing about a shop that sells ingame items.

This "you have to earn it" ... stop it.. no stop it.. what is wrong with you. "Earn it" for Special minions and mounts?
Are you guys just whining in hope someone offers you cheese and crackers?

In which world do you life that "Buying a mount or a minion" equals Pay to win? You dont win anything by that but a minion or mount that is as usefull as every other non companion chocobo or minion ... not at all, it just looks different.

You don't want it? dont use it.

You are NOT entitled to get a free Yshtola minion, you are not entitled to get a Sleipnir mount.

I wouldn' buy the slepinir though .... missing several legs.

[Titor]

I love cash shops, for mounts and such. If there is a mount that I really like and want, I would rather work ~2 hours at ~minimum wage for a guaranteed mount that I could have that night instead of farming an extreme primal for hours and hours on end with a 1% drop rate rolling against 7 other people (also assuming that any farm group you get with is competent to run multiple times). You could run that primal 100 times flawlessly, get a 1% drop rate and only have a 1/8 chance of winning it. Then you do it another 100 times.
If you are super speedrunning and clear the primal in 5 minutes, 5*100=500/60 ~= 8 hours of farming for a statistically one time drop. This is also doing the same exact thing over and over.
At minimum wage (and assuming they go by WoW's pricing for mounts of ~20), you could have gotten around 4 mounts guaranteed in that time.

[Miya_Carbuncle]

I'm 100% for CS as long as it stick with vanity stuff, or if the in-game bonuses are very meager.

I just really, really hope certain vanity things don't become available there; even things I don't have. Examples include the legacy chocobo (despite the fact I really want one) and the cait sith minion. They should stick to being legacy and pre-order exclusives.

With that said I desperately hope they don't recycle previous pre-order goodies ever again. The PS4 was understandable because the PS3 kinda stinks for FFXIV, but I really don't want my kitty to be meaningless. You know? *pets kitty plushie*

[affenmensch]

+ on Pro Cash-Shop
+ on getting the Pets and the Odin Mount on rls date

[Souto_Namigase]

I'm on the fence about this. My entire mmo history outside of ff14 has been entirely f2p mmos. So i know that a cash shops can exist without being p2w.

If done right they'll be able to release mounts, minions, outfits(specially because for soooome reason glamours are an endgame thing) and the likes without it having to align with patches or expansions and leave those for real content which is what I'm subbed for.

I don't understand people getting angry over mounts and minions being in a cs. It'd be as if patches 2.whatever added an npc that sold just mounts. That's it, no dungeons, no primals a full patch just to sell mounts. And that's all the content you'd get every other patch.

Now, if they start selling lockout resets or straight endgame gear you'll have a point in getting mad.

[Welsper59]

I'm on the fence about this. My entire mmo history outside of ff14 has been entirely f2p mmos. So i know that a cash shops can exist without being p2w.

If done right they'll be able to release mounts, minions, outfits(specially because for soooome reason glamours are an endgame thing) and the likes without it having to align with patches or expansions and leave those for real content which is what I'm subbed for.

I don't understand people getting angry over mounts and minions being in a cs. It'd be as if patches 2.whatever added an npc that sold just mounts. That's it, no dungeons, no primals a full patch just to sell mounts. And that's all the content you'd get every other patch.

Now, if they start selling lockout resets or straight endgame gear you'll have a point in getting mad.

It's just the fact that it's being sold for real money for something they're already subscribed to. IMO, that's a legit concern... usually.

For the most part though, it's just normal consumer frustration at multiple things that pertain to the same source. "They're going to take out content that would have otherwise been given to us in the game, just so they can make more money off us" tends to be the most prevalent type of complaint. While it is true for some, like Sleipnir... really SE? Didn't want to just make that a fight drop? Many complainers don't realize that the proper use of the cash shop is to allow for things that would have otherwise NOT been introduced to the game.

Often, this is vanity goods that have no legit reason to be in the game or that it just isn't worth spending time for story and so forth to introduce it to the game. Like if they wanted to add say... a Ragnarok (FF8 version) barding or airship (for way in the future), but didn't have the time to implement it traditionally... that idea would either be scrapped or put in the backseat, never to be seen again. That's essentially how microtransactions are intended to work when it comes to subscription games that have cash shops. They're there to provide services that would otherwise not be implemented (by default) in the game.

[XgungraveX]

as long its no impact on the game i dont care, but as soon as someone is able to buy gear that better than earning in game im going to cry foul... and knock it off with the f2p bs ff11 has been running strong for 11 years now going on 12. i highly doubt there going to make ff14 f2p anytime soon.

[ChriZirhC]

this news just makes me sad. I hate cash shops(especially on a subscription based MMO). Content should be gated by time and effort and not by real cash.