Why dont multiple sch shield stack?

[Zedd702]

You say that, but even when I crit for 3000 the shield goes down extremely quick where as say mid battle if you have two regens on the tank it's gonna get him back to full health in 3 seconds on top of that if you divine seal it's even more likely that the tank won't need much healing. If it was two scholars the tank needs much more attention, because we don't have regen.

Whispering Dawn from EOS = Regen...

TBQH two Adloquium's would be pretty OP and I like scholar, because it's a Hybrid of a few jobs. I can turn the switch on/off better than WHM when it comes to DPS, although WHM DPS is superior to Scholar in terms of burst output especially with CS at their disposal. But SCH is a great utility alternative to pure healer like WHM.

WHM IMO is more of a potent dependable healer (Translation: WHM heals are more powerful than scholar).

SCH has alot of utility to offer and I tend to play my scholar based on the premises of "damage prevention" vs "damage recovery" If I know an AOE is comin, Succor is already on my team before and after the AoE.

Two SCH are not horrible with healing a 8 man team as someone said earlier in this thread. I've did ST plenty of times with another scholar and did better than teams that had two WHM or one SCH and one WHM, though that could be fault of the healer. I personally prefer WHM/SCH combo because of the array of options at the healers disposals to keep the team alive, especially the way I play my SCH, that allows swift recovery from a Medica II on devastating AoE's etc...

[IceSpear]

Whispering Dawn from EOS = Regen...

You fail to mention the cool down on Whispering Dawn, it's definitely not a WHM regen. Regen has more potency and no cool down time or cast time. It's easy to try to compare the two, but get your facts straight first.

Regen with full i110 with HA weapon ticks for 470-480 on average. Add in 40% of DS that's 650-670 on average every 3 seconds. Claiming two DS regens will heal a tank to full in 3 seconds is complete nonsense - Unless you are talking about a level 30 tank. In fact, a single fairy heal would easily outheal a single DS regen tick with one embrace - Which is also once every three seconds.

We're not talking about static heals we're talking about healing over time you can't compare Eos' embace to a regen, because they're two totally different things. Also remember I said two not one regen. Eos doesn't automatically heal every 3 seconds like a regen would she'll only heal when HP is under a certain amount. This is also mid battle not at the start why would you keep on casting Stoneskin in mid battle when your healing would do be much more effective, saying that two Stoneskins won't stack is just a shit excuse coming out of your ass you use Stoneskin at the start, Scholars use Adloquium for shield as well as for the heal. We've already established that two Scholars are the worst type of combo, at lest with two White Mages the regens stack they have no trouble with having to coordinate better, because their mana doesn't get wasted as much as Scholars do.

[Cynfael]

You fail to mention the cool down on Whispering Dawn, it's definitely not a WHM regen. Regen has more potency and no cool down time or cast time. It's easy to try to compare the two, but get your facts straight first.

Either way it doesn't matter because Eos gathers dust at end-game except possibly if you want to use her for a solo heal run. But yes, WD isn't comparable to Regen except that they're both HoTs.

[Lyrica_Ashtine]

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Fine, I'll turn on the helpdesk mentality and assume your brain is in a glass jar on top of your desk.

For starters: This is mainly about endgame content. The more casual content (Crystal-/syrcus tower, dungeons etc.) aren't even worth mentioning or elaborating.

You mentioned two regens? I gave you numbers for one regen. One regen heals for 470-480 on average, 650-670 with Divine Seal. Which means that TWO regens will heal for 940-960 on average and 1300-1340 hp every three seconds. Still with me? Excellent. A scholar worth their salt has full control over their fairy and uses embrace manually. Scholars letting the fairy sit on /sic - or even worse: /obey and not do anything with it - might as well play White Mage instead of Scholar. Just like how Regen overheals every 3 seconds because the target's HP is full, so can a fairy overheal every 3 seconds with Embrace. But if you don't feel like having the fairy pre-cast it's embraces, your decision I guess.
Stoneskinning mid-battle has it's uses to prepare the tank (or anyone else for that matter) for big hits. Just like how a scholar worth their salt casts adloquium on the tank before the big hit comes in.

Just like how two scholars are a terrible combination, the same applies for two white mages. I'll give you some homework here and figure it out yourself why two white mages is a sub-optimal combination - just like how two scholars are sub-optimal. I'll give you a hint: Two white mages combo has a far worse MP efficiency than two scholars. But do make sense, rather than something that is "according to you".

[Cynfael]

just like how two scholars are sub-optimal. I'll give you a hint: Two white mages combo has a far worse MP efficiency than two scholars.

This is a good point. Two WHMs together are usually pumping out ridiculous overheal, and their DPS is not nearly as sustainable as that of the SCH.

Given the choice, I'd pretty much always take 1 SCH + 1 WHM for end-game content where 2 healers are desired.

For casual content, as I said before, it doesn't matter at all. Slop shields all over the place or blow your party up with HoT spam, because it makes no difference when the challenge level is low and the players are extremely overgeared. Two of the same healer isn't unworkable in most situations, just not optimal.

[Zedd702]

You fail to mention the cool down on Whispering Dawn, it's definitely not a WHM regen. Regen has more potency and no cool down time or cast time. It's easy to try to compare the two, but get your facts straight first.

Before you come at me like. You either need to read, re-read or re-re-read your own post. You stated "Scholars (the correct term you used was "we") don't have regen." My facts are straight, you should practice what you preach, because as I stated before: EOS Whispering Dawn = Regen...