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    Zedd702's Avatar
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    Razai Sylvain
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    Arcanist Lv 58
    Quote Originally Posted by IceSpear View Post
    You fail to mention the cool down on Whispering Dawn, it's definitely not a WHM regen. Regen has more potency and no cool down time or cast time. It's easy to try to compare the two, but get your facts straight first.
    Before you come at me like. You either need to read, re-read or re-re-read your own post. You stated "Scholars (the correct term you used was "we") don't have regen." My facts are straight, you should practice what you preach, because as I stated before: EOS Whispering Dawn = Regen...
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    Last edited by Zedd702; 10-28-2014 at 01:27 AM.

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    Fandan Magpran
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    Leviathan
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    Conjurer Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by IceSpear View Post
    You say that, but even when I crit for 3000 the shield goes down...
    This is mostly true in dungeons, and in fact I was just talking to my friend about how I basically DS->Regen, then just DPS for most dungeon pulls. But MP management is an enormous part of WHM gameplay, and Medica II is one of the most MP-intensive spells we have (beaten by Holy and Raise, I think), so we can't just keep it up 100%, like we do with Regen.

    In addition, DS takes two Regens to come off Cooldown. Also, if you have a WHM, try to see how long you can survive using just Regen, you seem to feel like it's a higher potency than it is. It's not really a healing spell so much as a comfort zone while we cast our real healing spells.

    Regardless, Galvanize is still "reverse Regen," in that the damage negation still comes, it just comes before the hits instead of after.
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    Shikiseki's Avatar
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    Akio Shikimazu
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    Odin
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    Summoner Lv 100
    I personally wouldn't mind a succor shield stack although that should not stack with Adlo, nor 2 Adlos.
    Two Scholars basically need to think bit otherwise as they usually would and needs a lot more coordination than two WHM.

    Altering Sacred soils + Eos/Selene combo give some nice results. You can also coordinate who'll focus on tanks and the other focuses more on the raid.

    It's bit sad though that many of the fairy skills don't stack.
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    Cynfael's Avatar
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    Sacrilege Moonshadow
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    Hyperion
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    Black Mage Lv 80
    Two strange, uncoordinated SCHs healing together can be sloppy when it comes to AoE heals, but who really cares? Two SCHs can slop all they want and not run out of MP unless they're extraordinarily bad or needing to spam rezzes. It's not as elegant a solution as a single Medica II cast to heal the entire party between unavoidable AoEs, but it will work.

    Two SCHs also means two fairies, so despite double Succor being somewhat wasteful, it's not as bad as it sounds. The SCHs just have to either be quick enough to force Embraces where needed the most during major AoEs or at least stop spamming Embrace on the tank so that the fairies can independently heal up the DPS who took the biggest hits. Ideally you have Succor up nearly 100% of the time to help mitigate the impending AoE, anyway, so it's never as bad as it might sound. If the SCHs actually know each other and are coordinated, the potential for damage control is very high.
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    Nico Nico
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    Goblin
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    Alchemist Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by AquariusHaken View Post
    As it this now. Whm are able to stack the heal over time from their medica 2 on the same target. what I mean is that they can both be applied at the same time. But why is every shielding ability from multiple scholar not in this case? Only the strongest shield at a certain moment is applied, removing the other one. I think it makes it increasingly difficult to have 2 sch. (From exp 2whm goes a lot smoother)
    Simply, Pro and SS don't stack, it is system design consistency regardless op or not.
    IMO they will just nerf it in advance if it could be stack. ^^;
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    Traumatic Trauma
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    Selene is the way to go if you aren't a scroob sch and micro manage your pet...if you don't micro manage then reroll ninja in a few hours pls. I usually only bring EoS out when solo healing Ramuh EM or for T9 Megaflare... Then its back in the bag for EoS... Selene is just so dirty when you manage her fey glow and fey light manually and the extra SS buff she casts on her own (that most people don't know about).

    Also just STAHP with the WHM vs SCH e-peen measuring. As you can see in my avatar I am a lalafell with a moustache...I win.

    <3 Traumatic Trauma Ultros
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    Razai Sylvain
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    Arcanist Lv 58
    Quote Originally Posted by Traumatic View Post
    Selene is the way to go if you aren't a scroob sch and micro manage your pet...if you don't micro manage then reroll ninja in a few hours pls. I usually only bring EoS out when solo healing Ramuh EM or for T9 Megaflare... Then its back in the bag for EoS... Selene is just so dirty when you manage her fey glow and fey light manually and the extra SS buff she casts on her own (that most people don't know about).

    Also just STAHP with the WHM vs SCH e-peen measuring. As you can see in my avatar I am a lalafell with a moustache...I win.

    <3 Traumatic Trauma Ultros
    I wouldn't go as far as saying Scrubbish. I prefer EOS at times, especially when on 24 man raids where I may have to pick up the slack with healing or if I am frozen by scyalla where I can hit WD, before hand. EOS has her uses, but for the most part, I agree with most of your post.

    PS: I think SE needs to implement an emote called "Punt" exclusively to other races except lalafewtballz :3
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    Aldo Von'alexandros
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    Leviathan
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    Arcanist Lv 70
    yeah, we already complained about this a long time ago
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