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    Quote Originally Posted by Fawkes View Post
    There is no "vocal group" getting their way. If you listen to what SE says, they make coil easier based off of clear rates. They have access to the data of how many players have cleared it, and are choosing to make it easier based off that data. Maybe that should tell you that a lot of people are not clearing it.
    Yes, because when SE says is based off of X data, that's how it is. They can see it all. Just like how scanned everyone's gil to come up with housing prices. Yet, when they need to look for gil buyers, it suddenly gets silent. They're a business. Of course they will tell us something to back up their decisions... With your theory: if there was not a single thread about Coil's difficulty, they would still nerf it based on their data. I highly doubt that.

    Do you (or your FC) run Coil? I'm just curious.
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    Quote Originally Posted by abzoluut View Post
    Yes, because when SE says is based off of X data, that's how it is. They can see it all. Just like how scanned everyone's gil to come up with housing prices. Yet, when they need to look for gil buyers, it suddenly gets silent. They're a business. Of course they will tell us something to back up their decisions... With your theory: if there was not a single thread about Coil's difficulty, they would still nerf it based on their data. I highly doubt that.

    Do you (or your FC) run Coil? I'm just curious.
    I don't remember anyone ever complaining about the bees in AK but they got rid of them, so yeah I think they probably would still nerf it based on their data. And yes they can see the data of how many people cleared. At the very least they are looking at the achievement data and can easily see how many people have the achievement for clearing it. There's no achievement for buying gil, so that's probably a bit harder to detect.


    One group in my FC has cleared T9. I've only done T5.
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    Quote Originally Posted by abzoluut View Post
    Yes, because when SE says is based off of X data, that's how it is. They can see it all. Just like how scanned everyone's gil to come up with housing prices. Yet, when they need to look for gil buyers, it suddenly gets silent. ....
    And yet they announce all the bans for accounts involved in RMT, and you say they are silent. If you don't want to trust SE, you don't have to. But false claims are false.

    Quote Originally Posted by Velo_Vandore View Post
    Before suggesting something as simplistic as "don't nerf coil", try to understand the existing system, and how it balances various players interests.
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    Perhaps the reason this isn't the case, is to ensure that only hardcore / committed statics are really able to practice and clear the latest content for a while - if casual players like me started clearing content with a semi-PUG I imagine there would be criticism that the difficulty wasn't enough. As annoying as that is to me I can accept a compromise and stay one patch behind the latest as a casual player playing with my friends. I wonder if there's another reason for not using the syrcus style loot lockout over the complete lockout (on clear) we have in 2nd coil now?[/I]

    Well said Velo_Vandore. Too bad many of them will complain about wall of text or won't read.

    BTW there is another reason to have lockout. You don't want RMT to have bigger impact than it already does, because people will be selling those runs which will be funded by RMT.

    The only people that have a rational reason to be upset about content being more accessible are the clear sellers and RMT gil sellers. Likely the two groups are working together in cahoots. If they have it their way, they'd be happy in final coil never comes and they can keep milking what they got already.
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