Instant Win Button [Can we have it?]

[abzoluut]

There is no "vocal group" getting their way. If you listen to what SE says, they make coil easier based off of clear rates. They have access to the data of how many players have cleared it, and are choosing to make it easier based off that data. Maybe that should tell you that a lot of people are not clearing it.

Yes, because when SE says is based off of X data, that's how it is. They can see it all. Just like how scanned everyone's gil to come up with housing prices. Yet, when they need to look for gil buyers, it suddenly gets silent. They're a business. Of course they will tell us something to back up their decisions... With your theory: if there was not a single thread about Coil's difficulty, they would still nerf it based on their data. I highly doubt that.

Do you (or your FC) run Coil? I'm just curious.

[Fawkes]

Yes, because when SE says is based off of X data, that's how it is. They can see it all. Just like how scanned everyone's gil to come up with housing prices. Yet, when they need to look for gil buyers, it suddenly gets silent. They're a business. Of course they will tell us something to back up their decisions... With your theory: if there was not a single thread about Coil's difficulty, they would still nerf it based on their data. I highly doubt that.

Do you (or your FC) run Coil? I'm just curious.

I don't remember anyone ever complaining about the bees in AK but they got rid of them, so yeah I think they probably would still nerf it based on their data. And yes they can see the data of how many people cleared. At the very least they are looking at the achievement data and can easily see how many people have the achievement for clearing it. There's no achievement for buying gil, so that's probably a bit harder to detect.


One group in my FC has cleared T9. I've only done T5.

[NyarukoW]

Yes, because when SE says is based off of X data, that's how it is. They can see it all. Just like how scanned everyone's gil to come up with housing prices. Yet, when they need to look for gil buyers, it suddenly gets silent. ....

And yet they announce all the bans for accounts involved in RMT, and you say they are silent. If you don't want to trust SE, you don't have to. But false claims are false.

Before suggesting something as simplistic as "don't nerf coil", try to understand the existing system, and how it balances various players interests.
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Perhaps the reason this isn't the case, is to ensure that only hardcore / committed statics are really able to practice and clear the latest content for a while - if casual players like me started clearing content with a semi-PUG I imagine there would be criticism that the difficulty wasn't enough. As annoying as that is to me I can accept a compromise and stay one patch behind the latest as a casual player playing with my friends. I wonder if there's another reason for not using the syrcus style loot lockout over the complete lockout (on clear) we have in 2nd coil now?[/I]

Well said Velo_Vandore. Too bad many of them will complain about wall of text or won't read.

BTW there is another reason to have lockout. You don't want RMT to have bigger impact than it already does, because people will be selling those runs which will be funded by RMT.

The only people that have a rational reason to be upset about content being more accessible are the clear sellers and RMT gil sellers. Likely the two groups are working together in cahoots. If they have it their way, they'd be happy in final coil never comes and they can keep milking what they got already.

[Doki]

11 has those potions from Abysea that boost all your stats to 999...

[Judge_Xero]

Nice post OP.

I think it should be added to the Party Vote System. -> Vote to Win!!!!!

Only issue might be the players in i110 with 20% Echo who are stuck on T5. They might not know how to use the voting system.

[NyneAlexander]

whooooooooo caaaaaaaaaaares.

By the time this happens, High Allagan gear isn't going to be the top tier. It will be basically filler/vanity. It will command the same level of respect that normal allagan gear commands now. The content being nerfed is ooooooooold. The benefits of more people clearing this stuff (continued subs) far outweigh the drawbacks of nerfing it (small % are butthurt).

they just want to log in and collect their High Allagan gear and feel good about how cool they now look that they have something that was previously off limits to them. Then they get stuck on the next stage of Coil and the cycle continues.

You left out the most important part of the equation, and thats these folks continue to pay money. This benefits everyone.

[Parodine]

[Chibionieko]

11 has those potions from Abysea that boost all your stats to 999...

Primeval Brew was more of a solo farming item. I used it to give wins to ls ppl when I couldn't get a monk or rarely other ideal tank for the boss. They let you make the ridiculous abysea farming solo instead of group content, 75 isgenbind hearts for instance. Imaging taking 4 ppl to farm atmas for one person (full context 1 heart was guarenteed 2nd was rng).

[Noshpan]

Second Coil, and its accompanied gear, is due to become obsolete very soon. It is in the nature of ALL MMOs, since damn near the advent of MMOs to nerf old content that is no longer relevant.

[Quesse]

Dear Yoshi P and fellow devs,

Would it be possible to add an instant win button for all dungeons and end-game raid instances? This button could be enabled after 5 wipes and after 10 mins have elapsed in the specific instance.

Just put it in the cash shop