Cross over Vanity in Mogstation

[Mardel]

This being a Final Fantasy game, I don't really like outside influences protruding that. I still have a bit of an issue with the Dragon Quest stuff being in the game from a lore perspective.

You want Final Fantasy stuff? Great! But I would really appreciate it if all the other stuff was left out.

I'm somewhat indifferent because I wouldn't mind outfits from other games. We already can make ourselves look weird in game, solid gold dyes.... ect... ect...

[HakuroDK]

I'm somewhat indifferent because I wouldn't mind outfits from other games. We already can make ourselves look weird in game, solid gold dyes.... ect... ect...

Gold armor has been a thing in Final Fantasy for a long time, though, so that's not really immersion breaking, especially since gold is a material that exists in FFXIV already.

The problem lies when a game in a technological, fashion, and socioeconomic era comparable to the Renaissance Era starts having more and more modernized clothes or clothes that look otherworldly by comparison. It's already a stretch to include FFXIII gear, and will continue to be a stretch if gear from FFVII or FFVIII is ever included, but I would just like to keep this stuff more in-franchise, at least for now.

I won't lie and say I can truly, honestly justify my reasoning why non-Final Fantasy gear should be allowed, because the only rational excuse is "Because it's a Final Fantasy game", and even that got broken with the "Breaking Brick Mountains" event. I just don't think I'll like a bunch of people running around dressed like Lara Croft, Magus, Geno, and Sora all over the place.

[Mardel]

^ I can respect that. Maybe if they do cross-over gear they will keep it tasteful and not completely lore breaking/out-of-place.

[Rbstr]

The problem lies when a game in a technological, fashion, and socioeconomic era comparable to the Renaissance Era starts having more and more modernized clothes or clothes that look otherworldly by comparison. It's already a stretch to include FFXIII gear, and will continue to be a stretch if gear from FFVII or FFVIII is ever included, but I would just like to keep this stuff more in-franchise, at least for now.

I understand that to some extent...But the "era" of this game is super anachronistic. Calling it Renaissance is nearly as wrong as calling it Victorian, you know? There's a lot of higher-technology magi-tech stuff going on with Allagan and the Garleans. We've got planes and trains. Even the fanciest FF7/8/13 technology seems like it would fit in via one of those two civilizations.

It's one of those "you know it doesn't fit when you see it" kind of things where there's not really any hard and fast rules.

[HakuroDK]

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That's why I have a hard time justifying it from that perspective. It's hard because that is a valid point. But unless there are rules on how to glamour something tastefully before it is purchased (which will never happen as glamours are all subjective), if stuff like this does go on sale, there are going to be a lot of immersion-breaking things going on. A ton of players dressed up like characters from other series running around in Eorzea. Imagine: fifty people in a single area all dressed exactly like Sora. I don't want that. But I can't fairly say "ban all of the non-Final Fantasy stuff because I don't like it".

[LineageRazor]

I just don't think I'll like a bunch of people running around dressed like Lara Croft, Magus, Geno, and Sora all over the place.

To be fair, there are ALREADY plenty of people trying to gear their characters up like characters from other games. I've seen a very well-done Mario Lalafell picture floating around, for instance. So, having costumes like this would simply change the situation from "gear sets that kinda look like character X" to "gear sets that very much look like character X".

I'm not really in favor of having a cash shop, but if we do have one I'd MUCH prefer it to be stocked with lore-independent offerings like this, rather than miss out on, say, a Sleipnir mount or Primal-themed vanity armor. That kinda thing is FFXIVesque, and should be acquireable within FFXIV proper.

[NorthernLadMSP]

Ooooh primal themed vanity armor. I would totally buy that.

[Mardel]

Ooooh primal themed vanity armor. I would totally buy that.

Those would be something that should be in the game. Like "10 garuda feathers + _____" to craft a garuda feathered body piece.

[HakuroDK]

Those would be something that should be in the game. Like "10 garuda feathers + _____" to craft a garuda feathered body piece.

I have to agree with this here. As convenient as it might be to just buy it, if it can be reasonably crafted by crafters, it should be craftable by crafters.