Keep past content out of Cash Shop

[Roris]

This thread really services no purpose beyond letting people vent. The only thing that will sway SE on optional service like this is your dollar. If you don't like it then don't buy, if you do then spend your money. If the general concensus is no ones buying then and only then SE will shift its view.

Sadly a very possible scenario with stuff not selling is the cash shop will keep getting promoted more and more until it ends up being included in the client itself, maybe even with pop up ads on log in. Another possible scenario could be more and more items getting moved to the shop, for example only endgame gear itself might be obtainable in game while all vanity stuff like pajamas, glasses and dresses will be all cash shop only. I'm sure a lot of people wouldn't have qualms about that but it would also be a major shift in what has been featured in patches so far.

We can only hope it gets handled better but seeing how features are already being removed from the game and put on the shop (old event vendor NPCs' merchandise), there's not a lot of hope there.

[polyphonica]

It seems as though people continue to disbelieve these NPCs existed. Here's proof,

http://ffxiv.consolegameswiki.com/wi...39;_Wake_(2013)

http://ffxiv.gamerescape.com/wiki/Creepy_Peddler

I'll also update my original post with these links

I don't think anyone ever disagreed that that NPC was there in 2013 during the event, but then it went away and only those who were there at the time could get the items from the Salvager. Basically the issue is that you assumed this NPC would return in 2014 when the same event returned, because this had been a practice for other events. It was a reasonable assumption given that past practice, but that's the practice that has now changed (and the practice that you are opposed to).

In other words, the disagreement was that, in your earlier posts about this, you implied that they had "taken out" this NPC, but it actually had been gone since 2013. They just didn't bring the NPC back this year as you assumed they would (and again, it's totally reasonable that you made that assumption).

[LittleArrow]

Heya there Polyphonica!

There were posts in this thread and other threads of players saying they never saw these NPCs during the event. Although your comment of assumptions is accurate, I feel this doesn't change the fact that SE acted in such a way that would lead their players to this conclusion. I assume the Halloween event will occur again, because it is an annual event. I never once saw SE stating this NPC was promotional. The npc was listed along with the other events as apart of the annual event.

The point of this conflict is they were offered during the event then not offered and put in the cash shop. This at it's core is misleading and extremely unfair. If these npcs were meant to be promotional, and perhaps many of us just missed this fact, there should've been a warning that they were temporary. They acted this way with the legacy status in 1.xx, giving players plenty of opportunity to obtain it.

I tried to make it clear in my original post that these npcs were up DURING THE EVENTS. It's in the second paragraph. I can definitely see how this may be confusing and will absolutely edit my post to clarify. Thanks so much for pointing this out ^^

[LittleArrow]

This thread really services no purpose beyond letting people vent. The only thing that will sway SE on optional service like this is your dollar. If you don't like it then don't buy, if you do then spend your money. If the general concensus is no ones buying then and only then SE will shift its view.

Thanks for the response Nama,

Definitely agree this is a great place to vent! That's kind of what forums are for though right? Lol I can't agree that this won't do anything, b/c petitions and grievances have been put on these forums before and caused real change. Take a gander at the housing prices. Originally, the prices were set to fall at a specific value. However, once the community saw these values were too high, the dev team graciously lowered them further.

The last thing I want is to not giving this development team credit. Yoshi and his crew have been extremely generous. Despite my issue with this decision and future fears, I will stand by how attentive this team has been to their players and fans.

Speaking with money is a great way to show SE what we dislike, but it isn't the most accurate. It's already been proven that F2P games are supported by a very wealthy and narrow few. Though it may keep the company afloat, this certainly doesn't represent the majority. ^^

[silentwindfr]

the trouble i see here, it's the marketing that try to get more money, they did see that it work with WoW, but do forget that WoW have tons of customer, and even if 2-3% only purchase stuff from the shop, since they have more of 8-9 million people, it's enough for be a really good profit. do it will be the case with FF14 i doubt it!

let's say only 2% of 2.000.000 player buy stuff it's only 40.000 even with stuff at 5 buck they will need to add tons of content in this shop for make it's worth! we need to stay firm and make us voice heard! no cash shop! it's the open door to more drastic change in the game!!

[Negotiator]

This would be a fair compromise since there is very little chance they'll ever take out the cash shop/new vanity. Also having the old event vanity for a price outside of its season is justifiable since its not time for the event. Those willing to wait though should get it for free(or priced at the gil when it first came out).

good point, i think OP offered this option in the second post.

[Nama]

Speaking with money is a great way to show SE what we dislike, but it isn't the most accurate. It's already been proven that F2P games are supported by a very wealthy and narrow few. Though it may keep the company afloat, this certainly doesn't represent the majority. ^^

Very true that a small portion of players may be willing to pony up alot that it may feel that it will invalidate the majority's view. The reason I brought up that venting wont matter only dollars will is because it is very unlikely that the decision to add cash shop was Yoshi or the dev teams idea. SE as a company has seen alot of changes in management and its views towards moble games and microtransactions. The guys that make decisions over things like investors and revenue streams don't care what anyone thinks until it means they are unwilling to spend money.
I don't support the idea of a cash shop I just don't think petitions and threads will reach the people that make the decisions on such things.

[Cyrusskorrey]

i dont care either way. im not going to waste my money on this garbage. but if others want to waste away their money on it. let them.

[Cutie_McSnuggles]

Why do people keep saying that there has been no event seller selling old gear this year????? This is the VERY FIRST event to not have that. Our summer event just a few short months ago had an NPC that sold the old gear from the last events.

Also the Calamity Savager IS NOT the same as an event gear seller.

[StrejdaTom]

I support you OP.