Booing when Coil2 Nerf was announced

[LalaRu]

What really surprise me, are:

• People surprised on old content being eased: it always happened on any dungeon of any game. I guess those players are here in their first MMO ever.
• People commenting the Coil 2 is a cakewalk: if it is a cakewalk to you, after the nerf it will continue to be a cakewalk, changes nothing to you, so why bother to comment?
• the noob vs elite war that starts every time a topic like this comes out: uh... well.. this does not surprise me... nevermind.

[Magis]

Well, look at it this way, suppose it is true that only less then 10% of the server population cleard 2nd coil that get to play the content in final coil, but the other 90% ish who paid the same amount of money to play this game never get to experience the contents, they will not be happy, and might quit the game because of this reason, now who is to pay SE to develop the game for those 10% that can clear end game content?

Your subscription gives you the same ability to access that content as everyone else. Do you complain to game companies that you couldn't see the end of a single player video game because it was too hard?

[NyarukoW]

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"But you guys are getting 3rd coil soon!"

Great...you guys will have the whole game and we'll have...4 boss fights....

That is a such a distortion of the facts. People clearing T9 now have the whole game already and is taking that fact for granted. The people without statics can't even realistically attempt T6 more than once or twice at best. So Who is being excluded?

With final coil you are getting 4 more, and the rest of the players base will always be 4 short in comparison which is to say thet DO NOT have the whole game, it is just that they will not be excluded forever. 6 months after SCOB, they can finally get a reasonable shot at it, just like T5 is now.

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Your subscription gives you the same ability to access that content as everyone else. Do you complain to game companies that you couldn't see the end of a single player video game because it was too hard?

Actually people do complain about the single player games, and they do get things like trainers and hacks/mods etc. applied to get to said content. But we are not talking about single player games. And yes everyone subscription gets everyone the same ability to access, and that ability requires you to recruit anad form statics and practice etc. Obviously that access level is not what SE wants its player base to be stuck on, they want to make that more accessible and improve access. What is so wrong with that? SE is making a smart business decision to do so, and being inclusive of newer players and newbies is a good thing for the game.

[Xisin]

Oh no it doesn't I was reacting to the comments of anther poster who consider others scrubs. Should I be surprised you don't get that?

the post above yours resonates this quality too. The idea in your post was that one group "casuals" brings in more revenue than the other group "elitist" and that if SE doesn't cater to group 1 ("casuals") than the game will inevitably go down the hole. That's the only idea you could get from such a post. You also like to write in a condescending tone while at the same time claiming you do not insult people. I get it though you were attacking someone for attacking another, doesn't make it any better however.

As stated many times in this thread money paid equals the same access level. You, I and Bob in New York all have the same means to access content, that is what you pay for, not a cleared content.

[Gucci_Charms]

Your subscription gives you the same ability to access that content as everyone else. Do you complain to game companies that you couldn't see the end of a single player video game because it was too hard?

You made me LOL because this is so true! <3

[DkFusion]

Your subscription gives you the same ability to access that content as everyone else. Do you complain to game companies that you couldn't see the end of a single player video game because it was too hard?

Well, if you think you can convince that 90% population with what you said and keep them paying SE to develop this game, good luck to you. I've cleared 2nd coil months ago, but I wouldn't moan about 2nd coil getting nerfed to give more ppl a chance, to me the more people happy to play this game the better.

[NyarukoW]

... money paid equals the same access level....

And SE get to decide what that access level is, and they will choose to adjust it from time to time for older content. So what is there to complain about?

Because nerfing does not make good players.

SE want more than just good players, SE wants as many players as possible to have a chance to try the game and pay for subscriptions. Your requirement for "good players only" will simply never be met. And what is the defintion of "good player"? Perhaps it should be only the best, like the first ones to clear T5, T9, and the new final coil? Well going by a definition like that, the game should only be made for those 8 or so top players.

Bottom line, you don't get to decide good, SE does. SE considers all paying subscribers good players.

[ReplicaX]

Your subscription gives you the same ability to access that content as everyone else. Do you complain to game companies that you couldn't see the end of a single player video game because it was too hard?

Most Single Player Video Games nowadays have 3 to 5+ difficulty settings now, because of these complaints in the past. Complaints being from both sides: too easy or too hard.

This isn't a Single Player game and why SE from past practice with 1st Coil is taking the Middle Ground and evaluating 2nd coil after 2.4 release.

This thread is your typical over reaction with speculation at this point.

[Jinrya-Geki]

I like how Yoshi-P and the other guy said not to look up who the bosses were in the new coils, to find out myself.


Would love to, but you know, you kinda have that stupid lockout in place so I can't do it with my buddies. I'll have to wait possibly 6 months or more to see them, thanks SE.

[MiniTofu]

Dev, you must know that even if you don't nerf the contents, those people who are complaining that it is too hard. They would still be playing and try again and over.
If you nerf the contents, it's the opposite effect, you will lose some players who really like challenges. You will hear people who left the game "Too boring, everything is dumped down. Game is nothing but easy mode. At the end."

This is not elitist speaking, it's from experiences from playing an easy contents vs challenging contents in my 15+ MMOs I've played in 15-16 years. I can tell you that all the easy one... many have left that game for that reason. It GETS boring!

Choose your pill.

Don't call me anything, I just started playing this MMO after leaving my previous bored out MMOs. I haven't even hit level 50 dungeons.