Booing when Coil2 Nerf was announced

[Atomnium]

Honestly just let this thread die, because so far it's become a gang of 5 or 6 people just thumbs up'ing eachothers posts, patting eachother on the back and ignoring any point made from the oposition.

And why should they care about us right? All we are to them are hardcore elitists that apparently love torturing ourselves by content that can only be completed by a super-human...

^ pretty much this, if only they had something else as an arguments than the typical /Irl-Card, /SoHard-Card, /ElitePlayersReJerks-card or even /IpayForThis-Card... There is actually some points (me, as a raider) where I could somehow agree, like a longer "enrage" limitation, it would sound acceptable to be good at game mechanics but not perfect as dps check maybe? (cause of stress or idk :P), it could lead to interesting discuss without the obvious anger they share to us... But nope : /whine

And on a side note, the booing really happened and Yoshida made a very surprised face because :

It kind of shows who the vocal minority are to me when the forums are littered with people whining about difficulty but when a fan gathering is held the true feelings are much more obvious.

Yep, yep, yep, wish I could had liked more than once this reply. So... Who re the real poisons over this community? The fans? Or the whiners? Whining on this forum is the reason why the Final Fantasy fans can't have more than 45 minutes of raid content the Tuesday :x. Shame on you.

[ReplicaX]

And on a side note, the booing really happened and Yoshida made a very surprised face because...

I really don't buy that. I feel he was surprised from the over-reaction as its been past practice and 7 months since it was released. It explains why both Yoshi and Mr. G had to take more time explaining they are going to evaluate 2nd Coil progression after Patch release before even implementing changes and see when to add Echo.

Both sides have whiners, assumptions, over-reaction, and poison the community. To think otherwise is turning a blind eye and this thread if anything is a perfect example of it all.


I have been neutral this whole time:
- I agree with the Dev Team taking the Middle Ground. (its 7 months old and will likely get a Savage mode like 1st Coil).
- I agree that raids like this take time to learn and are challenging, however once on farm status the only challenge is a RNG and an option to streamline strats even further as you have progressively gotten better gear and memorized all mechanics.

The only thing I can bash coil for was giving it Lore on the Calamity as it was the main cannon for the end of 1.0 and the start of the Realm Reborn storyline. I hope SE learns from it and just makes something completely side story and not so connected to the main cannon for the 3.0 Endgame Raid.

The last thing I can say is that if you have your way, and all the content in this game is watered down to a ridiculously low level, then this game is going to die, and hard.

A statement like this has nothing to do with hrs of gameplay, BiS, Hardcore, Casual, RL priorities, Raiders, Elitists, or who the "true loyal fans are".

You just over-react and have zero faith in the Dev Team. Yet here you are trying to defend their "original version" of Raid Content and praising its challenge. From day one the Dev Team has stated dated content will be evaluated and if need be adjusted. Savage was made to retain that challenge as you already got the rewards. This is the Middle Ground.

This thread is completely beaten to death now. Unlike some, I will actually leave it behind and end my contribution without an extreme over-reaction.