Booing when Coil2 Nerf was announced

[Aethaeryn]

A lot of what makes coil difficult is just that it's group jump rope. If you have a group with all turns on farm, you can take a friend that has never been there before and teach them the mechanics for all turns in a night or two (especially if they've watched videos a couple of times).

It's different when the entire group is learning the mechanics together, or even just half of the group or something. A static that has played together for a long time will likely pick things up faster than a group that isn't used to communicating or doesn't know each others' individual play styles or whatever.

Back on topic: I'm not sure why anyone is surprised (once again) about easing of content difficulty when new content is released. Almost all MMOs do this. If you're a serious raider, it shouldn't even really matter because you'll be too focused on clearing FCoB in less than two weeks and earning gear that greatly outclasses those benefiting from an easier time in second coil. Plus, I don't know about anyone else here, but I personally have a much better time DF farming tomes in the newer dungeons when the other players are better geared.

[Oglaf]

I'm not sure why anyone is surprised (once again) about easing of content difficulty when new content is released. Almost all MMOs do this. If you're a serious raider, it shouldn't even really matter because you'll be too focused on clearing FCoB in less than two weeks.

That guy summed up everything.

Come on guys, I know many of you are not playing MMO for the first time. You guys are discussing something that the MMO community have been arguing since 2004 or even before.

[LaurelinKementari]

I wonder how many of those complaining about the nerf turned off their echo in Turn 1 to 5 and made sure they didn't wear any gear above ilvl 90, since not doing so is nerfing a dungeon that was supposed to be challenging. I'm also wondering how many of those complaining about the 'nerf' will turn off their echo once Turn 6 to 9 are available, and make sure none of their gear is above ilvl 110 (weapon aside), since wearing any gear higher than that is nerfing the dungeon that is supposed to be challenging. Genuinely curious.

[Mature]

People don't seem to understand that coil is hard for those without a static. If you have a static the whole thing is a piece of cake. Coil should be nerf for those who cannot do it without a static.

Of course the first ones complaining are the ones with a very comfortable static.

[TessaJalloh]

what does it matter if they nerf old content, shouldn't you already have beaten it if you're that truly hardcore? won't you be in final coil when these changes take effect?

[Prototype909]

what does it matter if they nerf old content, shouldn't you already have beaten it if you're that truly hardcore? won't you be in final coil when these changes take effect?

People who are hung up on old content just become stuck on new content anyways, if they actually put some work in rather than waiting for a free pass to be handed to them then this cycle of content getting nerfed and then them being frustrated that they don't have the ability to clear the newest thing might finally end.

It doesn't solve the problem, it just creates the illusion of progress for them.

[SendohJin]

i don't see how they put Turn 7 into Duty Finder without any changes.

what happens when you go into DF with a job comp of PLD PLD MNK DRG DRG NIN WHM WHM.

it's basically the same reason why they nerfed High Voltage in T2 for DF for when you can get in without a BRD/PLD.

[ReplicaX]

I think this thread is proof of why the Devs take the middle ground on this with previous patch content.

[Ilitsa]

I'm a little dissapointed I haven't had a chance to try SCoB yet, I've cleared T5 but 4 people in my FC static haven't yet (I helped a couple people through the fight a few times) so I'm kinda just waiting around on them lol.


That being said, I don't think it's necessarily a BAD thing to make old content more accessible while newer content is left more difficult. I do wish we could toggle the echo effect off though if we so chose.

[Prototype909]

I do wish we could toggle the echo effect off though if we so chose.

You can do this, albeit only on an individual level. Click off the buff like any other buff.