Booing when Coil2 Nerf was announced

[Welsper59]

The worst part about it is, its not even hard. Learning the fights is hard but once you learn them, its cake mode.

Once you learn how to do anything consistent by memory, it becomes easy. This is true for nearly everything in life. Once that happens, difficulty extends only to the time you are willing to allow for it for anything that you do alone. Or in the case of things that require others to be involved, the time AND the capability of your party becomes the only difficult part of it. That being said, it's easy to spout that something isn't hard, but not everyone is going to be able to learn as quickly or willingly as another. Otherwise, we'd all know exactly how to do literally everything in life, since once we learn it, it's easy.

[Maero]

The worst part about it is, its not even hard. Learning the fights is hard but once you learn them, its cake mode.

Could not agree more with this

Thing is nerfs (yes dungeon nerfs happened as well , cough, Ak) now coil nerfs and having implemented echo for Primals.
And let's not forget how easy they made it for new players to 50 to get the soldiery gear, so i can understand why some people would feel frustrated. If at all echo should never have been introduced for the Primals. That said however i myself am not my any means a hardcore player so this will not really effect me much

[saeedaisspecial]

It kind of shows who the vocal minority are to me when the forums are littered with people whining about difficulty but when a fan gathering is held the true feelings are much more obvious.

[Kuwagami]

It kind of shows who the vocal minority are to me when the forums are littered with people whining about difficulty but when a fan gathering is held the true feelings are much more obvious.

because everyone know the majority of the players are present in the Fan Fest (how can one not afford a trip to Vegas in a "limited tickets" event ?) and can assist to the live letter (which is a restricted event in a restricted event)

Be real, it only shows that the minority present at the Live Letter was in majority against a nerf. Nothing else.



On the other side, I don't see why they boo'ed the discussed nerf (petrified people can no longer be insta-killed in T7) as it won't prevent stupid death (petrified your healer/OT/kiter ? wipe). People complaining for the sake of complaining ? It will only allows the raid to survive if MT gets petrified and maybe one of the 2 healers

[Tiggy]

because everyone know the majority of the players are present in the Fan Fest (how can one not afford a trip to Vegas in a "limited tickets" event ?) and can assist to the live letter (which is a restricted event in a restricted event)

Be real, it only shows that the minority present at the Live Letter was in majority against a nerf. Nothing else.



On the other side, I don't see why they boo'ed the discussed nerf (petrified people can no longer be insta-killed in T7) as it won't prevent stupid death (petrified your healer/OT/kiter ? wipe). People complaining for the sake of complaining ? It will only allows the raid to survive if MT gets petrified and maybe one of the 2 healers

It was as close to a random sampling the population that we'll probably get. There were many casual and hardcore players there and there were p plenty of people there for it be reasonably significant. Statistically it's not bad at all. Hardly a minority.

[Kuwagami]

It was as close to a random sampling the population that we'll probably get. There were many casual and hardcore players there and there were p plenty of people there for it be reasonably significant. Statistically it's not bad at all. Hardly a minority.

Statistically, people who don't agree tend to express it louder that those who are satisfied. We don't see the public in the stream. It could have been 10 people out of 200, or 150 out of 200 (numbers made up, take them as 5% or 75% or whatever pleases you)...

And sorry to say, but people going to Fan festivals are hardly the huge "I play to relax" majority of players. they are mostly dedicated players, with numerous good players among them, lots of them tackling Coil already or at least trying.

Yes you have a good statistical sample of the dedicated player base.

No you don't have a good statistical sample of the entire player base.

[FritoBandito]

It kind of shows who the vocal minority are to me when the forums are littered with people whining about difficulty but when a fan gathering is held the true feelings are much more obvious.

I would hardly consider attendees to be the majority of the playerbase.

[Valcro]

It kind of shows who the vocal minority are to me when the forums are littered with people whining about difficulty but when a fan gathering is held the true feelings are much more obvious.

More like everybody who spends money to go to a fanfest are the ones doing coil

[RiceisNice]

More like everybody who spends money to go to a fanfest are the ones doing coil

From experience, it's a terrible way to judge the community outlook (much like every other way such as the forum). A game I was playing back then had a live PvP event, and people were booing at the player who had radial AoE stun (good for support), but cheering for the player who had the ability to literally one-shot people from 100% hp in the truest sense.

Doesn't do either side any good though if you take one perspective and immediately dismiss the other side either; I'm all for nerfing coil but to an extent. I still want to be able to progress the way it is right now, and my group is still struggling to find the last slots to fill. If it's just 20% echo, it doesn't do much for the mechanics anyway, and you can turn it off so why would it matter in the long run.

[Shougun]

It kind of shows who the vocal minority are to me when the forums are littered with people whining about difficulty but when a fan gathering is held the true feelings are much more obvious.

Amount of people to the gathering vs amount of people on the forums, maybe different people - same minority XD.