What Portion of Cash-Shop Proceeds go toward Development

[Eagleheart]

I uh, think you just added a lot of weight to my original reply.

I still don't know what you're referring to as information at this point, as you've changed it quite often in this thread. If we're talking about what you originally posted, which I was, then yes, I can see their profits for any given quarter. I don't have to ask for it, it's on their site.

Gosh, don't you have a business to be running?

The beauty of being self-employed.

I can sit here and have a good laugh while everyone's driving home for the day. 0.o If you must know, the supply quotes are received, the bids are out, my crew's hotel rooms are reserved for the evening, and I've just finished logging hours to turn over to my accountant for payroll.

So yes, I have a business to be running. o.O> And I am indeed running it! Any progress getting an answer from SE on how much money they are making from the cash shop in profit (the entire point of this thread) yet?

[DefendPopPunk]

The beauty of being self-employed.

I can sit here and have a good laugh while everyone's driving home for the day. 0.o If you must know, the supply quotes are received, the bids are out, my crew's hotel rooms are reserved for the evening, and I've just finished logging hours to turn over to my accountant for payroll.

So yes, I have a business to be running. o.O> And I am indeed running it!

It was a rhetorical question. Yeesh. But kudos anyway.

[Parz3val]

It was a rhetorical question. Yeesh. But kudos anyway.

I love how he continually ignores the points we make

Also his reply regarding Stakeholders made me chuckle

[DefendPopPunk]

I love how he continually ignores the points we make

Also his reply regarding Stakeholders made me chuckle

Yeah, I don't like to bring up my education or occupation to distract from the argument, but it's fairly clear when someone doesn't know what they're talking about.

Thanks for contributing though, you had many good points.

[Eagleheart]

Yeah, I don't like to bring up my education or occupation to distract from the argument, but it's fairly clear when someone doesn't know what they're talking about.

Thanks for contributing though, you had many good points.

But still doesn't have the information he wanted!

[Nictwist]

that was a very entertaining read, i thank the three of you for it.


ps
Parz3val your memes were pretty damn funny

[Tiggy]

Any money from the cash shop that goes toward FF14 development will just go into developing more things that can go into the cash shop rather than the actual game. This is why cash shops are bullshit. They're just going to create content that should be in the game and put it into the cash shop instead.

Assumption machine go!

[Xairos]

That Eagleheart guy has the right of it. I am a stakeholder in Sony, as i have a ps3, but only in the area of having options. As an investor i would he a stakeholder for a monetary (and much more important) aspect. As a customer, I only have a stake insofar as having an option of a service. If Sony disappears, then I go elsewhere. No money lost as far as investments are concerned. That's is the difference i think he was alluding to. Its a semantic argument.

[DefendPopPunk]

That Eagleheart guy has the right of it. I am a stakeholder in Sony, as i have a ps3, but only in the area of having options. As an investor i would he a stakeholder for a monetary (and much more important) aspect. As a customer, I only have a stake insofar as having an option of a service. If Sony disappears, then I go elsewhere. No money lost as far as investments are concerned. That's is the difference i think he was alluding to. Its a semantic argument.

Yeah, I saw this for what it was and that's why I didn't hinge the entire argument on the definition. Still, when you say something like "you're a stakeholder because you're a player?" as if it wasn't true, that's where I came in and said that that is wrong. Stakeholders come in all different flavors in terms of involvement, but I don't see how calling a customer a stakeholder (which is true) is something that is laughable.

Regardless, it doesn't change the fact that I said the income statements are available for anyone to browse for whatever reason they wish, but then he wants to go into specifics about per unit costs and such, about which I never had anything to say in any of my posts. Well, initially I may have said his whole post, but what I meant was the blanket statements and absolutes. I do agree that per unit costs are not necessarily anyone's business, and I never argued against that.

[Inflorescence]

What the hell? Are the mods seeing this? I have literally never seen such an arrogant, childish argument between strangers this side of 4chan.


The past three pages aside, if SE decided to raise all their subscription prices by a dollar, I'd definitely pay it. I don't mind paying for this game, and if I think that putting a pumpkin head on my character is worth literally less than a six inch sub at Subway, then I'm totally going to do it. (And I'm totally going to do it)

Has nobody seen the kind of F2P cash shops that give you things like "Look at this badass sword! Rent it for three days for $1, or three months for $3!" This seems a lot less of a cash grab to me than it does a way to justify putting back in content that people may have missed.

Literally everything that was shown in the Optional Item shop was seasonal, or in the case of Sleipnir, a result of the fanfest. (Except the Scion minions, I don't really know where they're from.)